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08-21-2016 , 01:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by taisho
Villain is Loose-Aggro

How would you guys play? Ignore preflop mistake CC, I misclicked.
+EV to bet Nutflush blocker in micro/small?

BTN: 222.2 BB
SB: 99 BB
BB: 129.4 BB
UTG: 196.4 BB
MP: 133.2 BB
Hero (CO): 142.4 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 9 A 2 A

fold, MP raises to 3.4 BB, Hero calls 3.4 BB, BTN calls 3.4 BB, fold, fold

Flop: (11.6 BB, 3 players) A 7 9
MP bets 7.2 BB, Hero raises to 27.8 BB, fold, MP calls 20.6 BB

Turn: (67.2 BB, 2 players) 2
MP checks, Hero bets 52 BB, MP calls 52 BB

River: (171.2 BB, 2 players) T
MP checks, Hero checks

In short: No, it's not +EV to bet NF blockers in micro PLO against majority of players.

There are players who are capable of laying a flush down but that's extremely villain depended.

I think you could bet smaller on the turn.

You describe the villain as a LAG but he played this hand fairly passive.
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08-22-2016 , 06:57 AM
general variance question- what is the range most players std dev bb/100 fall between for 5 to 6 handed? approximate reduction running it twice has on that?

for no limit I found that running it twice would be about 12% reduction.
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08-23-2016 , 09:41 AM
Hero (BTN): $5.00
SB: $6.52 - VPIP: 13, PFR: 9, 3B: 0, AF: 2,3, Hands: 149
BB: $4.55 - VPIP: 42, PFR: 8, 3B: 0, AF: 0,5, Hands: 12
UTG: $13.91 - VPIP: 32, PFR: 22, 3B: 0, AF: 1,7, Hands: 41
MP: $5.00 - VPIP: 32, PFR: 28, 3B: 17, AF: 0,0, Hands: 25
CO: $12.96 - VPIP: 26, PFR: 20, 3B: 8, AF: 2,0, Hands: 228

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is BTN with 5 K 7 K
UTG raises to $0.17, 1 fold, CO raises to $0.58 Hero ?
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08-29-2016 , 11:12 PM
do you ever bet less than pot on this flop
iPoker - $0.25 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 75.04 BB (VPIP: 85.29, PFR: 16.18, 3Bet Preflop: 2.44, Hands: 68)
BB: 142.84 BB (VPIP: 85.71, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)
UTG: 98.6 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
Hero (CO): 166.84 BB
BTN: 179.36 BB (VPIP: 96.77, PFR: 54.84, 3Bet Preflop: 7.69, Hands: 31)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has A 6 A 3

fold, Hero raises to 3.4 BB, BTN raises to 11.6 BB, fold, BB calls 10.6 BB, Hero raises to 46.8 BB, BTN calls 35.2 BB, fold

Flop: (105.6 BB, 2 players) 4 A J
Hero bets 105.6 BB, fold

Hero mucks A 6 A 3 (Three of a Kind, Aces)

Hero wins 205.92 BB
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08-30-2016 , 02:27 PM
I would bet 1/3 to 1/4 pot on that flop with both my aces and kings there. Likely shoving most turns.

If the board didn't have an ace or king then I would likely pot.
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09-01-2016 , 11:27 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkfangs
I would bet 1/3 to 1/4 pot on that flop with both my aces and kings there. Likely shoving most turns.

If the board didn't have an ace or king then I would likely pot.
Don't you think that when we bet that small we are giving people odds to crack us on turns, even HU?
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09-02-2016 , 09:47 PM
Do a little self range construction there and compare it to villains range. You likely have at worst 70% unless the guy flopped godly which he will shove anyway and then it's a flip. What do you want to call, what do you want to fold out and then base your bet size on that? From reading a lot of posts by yourself you don't really ever think about bet sizing in the slightest. You just hit the pot button when you have it, I could go as far to say your bet size almost always directly correlates to your hand strength which is very bad and the first thing people will pick up on(I could be wrong on that last point but that's what it looks like in every hand you post). Your being so afraid of maybe 5% or less of his range that you refuse to get value from the 30-50% of his range that wants to give you all his money, you shouldn't be scared of anything there, absolute worse case scenario you have 50%.
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09-11-2016 , 07:27 PM
50nl, 5 handed

utg limps, sb limps, i check bb with 5T9Kr

flop 678, sb checks i lead $1 into $1.50, utg folds and sb calls. turn A, i pot sb calls. river A, sb checks - do we bet here or chk vs an unknown reg?
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09-11-2016 , 08:00 PM
Board texture?

Boats should lead the river a lot, so it is probably a bet.
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09-11-2016 , 08:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by FishyMe
50nl, 5 handed

utg limps, sb limps, i check bb with 5T9Kr

flop 678, sb checks i lead $1 into $1.50, utg folds and sb calls. turn A, i pot sb calls. river A, sb checks - do we bet here or chk vs an unknown reg?
I think potting turn is silly. Don't do it. Check back river vs unknown reg
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09-11-2016 , 09:16 PM
Board was rainbow. So potting is bad cuz we should bet ~70% with our entire range I assume?

Another hand:

50 nl, 100bb effective. I raise utg with KK55 single suited, two callers, reg in BB 3bets to pot. I call and everyone else calls

Flop 233r, bb bets 1/3, I call, everyone else folds. turn 7, bb checks, I check. River 3, bb shoves

GTO wise I assume this is a call but I don't see anyone taking this line as a bluff. Thoughts?
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09-15-2016 , 12:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by FishyMe
Board was rainbow. So potting is bad cuz we should bet ~70% with our entire range I assume?
Potting turn is bad because what is going to call you that is worse? Sets have to fold turn to your bet so your getting called by people slowplaying the nuts to chop and by people who are sticky with 95, which you have a 5 in your hand so your blocking that. 54 is going to fold to that bet, 95 is going to fold to a pot some low% of the time and sets will fold. So potting it gets you barely anything to call and when it does you chop most of the time. If you size your bet down a lot more can call you and you still win a large portion of the time and are in position. The pot is just worse because the board is rainbow, that doesn't help your case, if there were 2 flush draws on the board then potting is probably correct.
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10-19-2016 , 07:42 PM
7788ss OTB

MP opens pot. Folds to us 3b or call?

100bb stacks, readless table (5PLOz pool)
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10-20-2016 , 01:57 AM
Connected mid ss doublepairs and ds low/mid doublepairs are a good type of hand to 3-bet -- low/mid pairs play better in heads up and at lower SPRs -- but flatting will be better from these positions if the average 100bb stack readless will be opening fairly tightly in those games.
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10-24-2016 , 04:08 PM
    Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 5 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

    SB: $25 (100 bb)
    BB: $40.32 (161.3 bb)
    MP: $21.55 (86.2 bb)
    Hero (CO): $63.10 (252.4 bb)
    BTN: $30.81 (123.2 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is CO with A 4 J A
    MP folds, Hero raises to $0.75, BTN calls $0.75, 2 folds

    Flop: ($1.85) 2 7 9 (2 players)
    Hero bets $1.25, BTN calls $1.25

    Turn: ($4.35) A (2 players)
    Hero bets $3.75, BTN calls $3.75

    River: ($11.85) 2 (2 players)
    Hero bets $7.50, BTN raises to $15, Hero calls $7.50

    Spoiler:
    Results: $41.85 pot ($1.78 rake)
    Final Board: 2 7 9 A 2
    Hero mucked A 4 J A and lost (-$20.75 net)
    BTN showed T 7 2 2 and won $40.07 ($19.32 net)


    Just crying post, this is the thread to cry right? xd
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    10-24-2016 , 05:16 PM
    At least he minraised.
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    11-10-2016 , 06:58 PM
      Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25, $0.05 ante Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      SB: $44.49 (178 bb)
      BB: $25 (100 bb)
      UTG: $21.64 (86.6 bb)
      MP: $119.57 (478.3 bb)
      Hero (CO): $25 (100 bb)
      BTN: $23.52 (94.1 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is CO with Q K J T
      UTG raises to $1.15, MP calls $1.15, Hero raises to $5.25, 4 folds, MP raises to $17.55, Hero calls $12.30

      Flop: ($36.90) A 4 2 (2 players)
      MP bets $17.66, Hero calls $7.40 and is all-in

      Turn: ($51.70) Q (2 players, 1 is all-in)
      River: ($51.70) 3 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

      Spoiler:
      Results: $51.70 pot ($2 rake)
      Final Board: A 4 2 Q 3
      MP showed J T 7 9 and lost (-$25 net)
      Hero showed Q K J T and won $49.70 ($24.70 net)


      lol

      It is worth to call pre and dodge some flop, there are some flops vs an unknown player to dodge? Or just shoving it pre is better?

      How would you play it?
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      11-11-2016 , 01:03 AM
      Ship the river no way he has quads.
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      11-11-2016 , 05:54 PM
      Quote:
      Originally Posted by Mindead
        Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25, $0.05 ante Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
        Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

        SB: $44.49 (178 bb)
        BB: $25 (100 bb)
        UTG: $21.64 (86.6 bb)
        MP: $119.57 (478.3 bb)
        Hero (CO): $25 (100 bb)
        BTN: $23.52 (94.1 bb)

        Preflop: Hero is CO with Q K J T
        UTG raises to $1.15, MP calls $1.15, Hero raises to $5.25, 4 folds, MP raises to $17.55, Hero calls $12.30

        Flop: ($36.90) A 4 2 (2 players)
        MP bets $17.66, Hero calls $7.40 and is all-in

        Turn: ($51.70) Q (2 players, 1 is all-in)
        River: ($51.70) 3 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

        Spoiler:
        Results: $51.70 pot ($2 rake)
        Final Board: A 4 2 Q 3
        MP showed J T 7 9 and lost (-$25 net)
        Hero showed Q K J T and won $49.70 ($24.70 net)


        lol

        It is worth to call pre and dodge some flop, there are some flops vs an unknown player to dodge? Or just shoving it pre is better?

        How would you play it?
        If you're not folding this flop I think shoving it pre has more EV.
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        11-12-2016 , 02:21 AM
        Quote:
        Originally Posted by Thamel18
        If you're not folding this flop I think shoving it pre has more EV.
        If we expect villain to shove 100% of flops for that little money, it would be the same to flat pre or shove it, wouldn't?

        Pros of shoving?

        Last edited by Mindead; 11-12-2016 at 02:42 AM.
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        11-12-2016 , 09:35 PM
          Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
          Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37512138

          BTN: $10 (100 bb)
          SB: $9.82 (98.2 bb)
          BB: $21.18 (211.8 bb)
          UTG: $20.48 (204.8 bb)
          Hero (MP): $11.05 (110.5 bb)
          CO: $13.79 (137.9 bb)

          Preflop: Hero is MP with K K 6 7
          UTG folds, Hero raises to $0.35, 2 folds, SB calls $0.30, BB calls $0.25

          Flop: ($1.05) 9 4 5 (3 players)
          SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $0.68, SB raises to $3.05, 2 folds

          Spoiler:
          Results: $2.41 pot ($0.10 rake)
          Final Board: 9 4 5
          SB mucked and won $2.31 ($1.28 net)
          BB mucked and lost (-$0.35 net)
          Hero mucked K K 6 7 and lost (-$1.03 net)



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          what would you do here ?

          not sure folding was the right option

          cheers
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          11-13-2016 , 02:31 PM
          Quote:
          Originally Posted by Gillingham
            Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
            Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37512138

            BTN: $10 (100 bb)
            SB: $9.82 (98.2 bb)
            BB: $21.18 (211.8 bb)
            UTG: $20.48 (204.8 bb)
            Hero (MP): $11.05 (110.5 bb)
            CO: $13.79 (137.9 bb)

            Preflop: Hero is MP with K K 6 7
            UTG folds, Hero raises to $0.35, 2 folds, SB calls $0.30, BB calls $0.25

            Flop: ($1.05) 9 4 5 (3 players)
            SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $0.68, SB raises to $3.05, 2 folds

            Spoiler:
            Results: $2.41 pot ($0.10 rake)
            Final Board: 9 4 5
            SB mucked and won $2.31 ($1.28 net)
            BB mucked and lost (-$0.35 net)
            Hero mucked K K 6 7 and lost (-$1.03 net)



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            what would you do here ?

            not sure folding was the right option

            cheers
            I think it is close, I would call
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            11-13-2016 , 03:14 PM
            Edit: It is nothing close, easy call.
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            11-22-2016 , 02:40 PM
            3.5:1 against improving on the turn and getting 2:1 it seems pretty close
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            11-28-2016 , 10:15 AM
            tag CO opens pot in a .10/.25 ante game. 40 bb effective. if it is folded to you in the BB should you defend 7c8c6h7d. What is the best hand you should fold and worst hand you should defend in this spot?



            fish 71/29 over only 28 hands (125 bb) opens for pot, button fish, 60/31 over 45 hands with 28 bbs flats, should i (cover) defend 9975 ds here from bb? this is also ante game.
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