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09-23-2012 , 02:17 AM
Should I have gone for thin value on the river here or was check-call the best line? Assume readless as it's PLO2. Thanks

PokerStars - $0.02 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $4.72
SB: $1.72
BB: $2.34
UTG: $5.34
Hero (MP): $2.37
CO: $2.40

SB posts SB $0.01, BB posts BB $0.02

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.03) Hero has T J K 9

fold, Hero raises to $0.07, fold, BTN calls $0.07, SB calls $0.06, fold

Flop: ($0.23, 3 players) Q 2 9
SB checks, Hero checks, BTN bets $0.15, SB calls $0.15, Hero calls $0.15

Turn: ($0.68, 3 players) 3
SB checks, Hero checks, BTN checks

River: ($0.68, 3 players) T
SB checks, Hero???
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09-23-2012 , 02:39 AM
why no cbet on that flop? middle pair + wrap
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09-23-2012 , 02:49 AM
Because I'm a fish
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09-23-2012 , 03:51 AM
iPoker - €0.20 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (UTG): €20.00
CO: €14.45
BTN: €34.57
SB: €8.67
BB: €16.60

SB posts SB €0.10, BB posts BB €0.20

Pre Flop: (pot: €0.30) Hero has 9 7 6 5

Hero raises to €0.70, CO calls €0.70, BTN raises to €3.10, fold, fold, Hero calls €2.40, CO calls €2.40

Flop: (€9.60, 3 players) T T 8
Hero checks, CO bets €4.80, BTN raises to €24.00, Hero calls €16.90, CO calls €6.55

Turn: (€54.75, 3 players) J

River: (€54.75, 3 players) 2

Hero mucks 9 7 6 5 (Straight, Jack High) (Pre 34%, Flop 20%, Turn 0%)
CO shows 7 3 J J (Full House, Jacks full of Tens) (Pre 18%, Flop 21%, Turn 92%)
BTN shows A 2 A T (Full House, Tens full of Twos) (Pre 48%, Flop 59%, Turn 8%)
CO wins €41.65
BTN wins €11.10
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09-23-2012 , 03:53 AM
oppo is 89/34/23, down 2 buyins over 60 hands


iPoker - €0.20 PL Hi (2 max) - Omaha Hi - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: €30.38
Hero (SB): €31.55

Hero posts SB €0.10, BB posts BB €0.20

Pre Flop: (pot: €0.30) Hero has A J T A

Hero raises to €0.60, BB raises to €1.80, Hero raises to €5.30, BB calls €3.50

Flop: (€10.60, 2 players) 6 9 9
BB checks, Hero bets €5.30, BB raises to €10.60, Hero raises to €26.25, BB calls €14.48

Turn: (€60.76, 2 players) 3

River: (€60.76, 2 players) 3

BB shows 9 7 A T (Three of a Kind, Nines) (Pre 29%, Flop 91%, Turn 97%)
Hero shows A J T A (Two Pair, Aces and Nines) (Pre 71%, Flop 9%, Turn 3%)
BB wins €60.01
Hero wins €0.00
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09-23-2012 , 03:59 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Benjamin the Donk
Should I have gone for thin value on the river here or was check-call the best line? Assume readless as it's PLO2. Thanks

PokerStars - $0.02 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $4.72
SB: $1.72
BB: $2.34
UTG: $5.34
Hero (MP): $2.37
CO: $2.40

SB posts SB $0.01, BB posts BB $0.02

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.03) Hero has T J K 9

fold, Hero raises to $0.07, fold, BTN calls $0.07, SB calls $0.06, fold

Flop: ($0.23, 3 players) Q 2 9
SB checks, Hero checks, BTN bets $0.15, SB calls $0.15, Hero calls $0.15

Turn: ($0.68, 3 players) 3
SB checks, Hero checks, BTN checks

River: ($0.68, 3 players) T
SB checks, Hero???
cb flop. you have middle pair and big draw. if you get check raised you have more than enough equity too call and see a turn.

bet river for value from crap 2 pair etc
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09-23-2012 , 04:11 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by easypil
iPoker - €0.20 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (UTG): €20.00
CO: €14.45
BTN: €34.57
SB: €8.67
BB: €16.60

SB posts SB €0.10, BB posts BB €0.20

Pre Flop: (pot: €0.30) Hero has 9 7 6 5

Hero raises to €0.70, CO calls €0.70, BTN raises to €3.10, fold, fold, Hero calls €2.40, CO calls €2.40

Flop: (€9.60, 3 players) T T 8
Hero checks, CO bets €4.80, BTN raises to €24.00, Hero calls €16.90, CO calls €6.55

Turn: (€54.75, 3 players) J

River: (€54.75, 3 players) 2

Hero mucks 9 7 6 5 (Straight, Jack High) (Pre 34%, Flop 20%, Turn 0%)
CO shows 7 3 J J (Full House, Jacks full of Tens) (Pre 18%, Flop 21%, Turn 92%)
BTN shows A 2 A T (Full House, Tens full of Twos) (Pre 48%, Flop 59%, Turn 8%)
CO wins €41.65
BTN wins €11.10
Fold. Shouldn't really be looking to get it in, multi-way with a draw on paired flops. I'm surprised you weren't drawing dead
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09-23-2012 , 06:56 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bompter
cb flop. you have middle pair and big draw. if you get check raised you have more than enough equity too call and see a turn.

bet river for value from crap 2 pair etc
please explain how any 2 pair, crap or not is calling this board on river?
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09-23-2012 , 07:05 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ankimo
please explain how any 2 pair, crap or not is calling this board on river?
Hand has been played so passively.
Hero's hand is well disguised as most players would bet draws flop.
A bet here looks enough like a steal that Villains will look Hero up light.
Hero is playing PLO2
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09-23-2012 , 10:17 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by nessthabest
villain is solid, 28/18/AFq52

wp?
c/f flop?

thx for help!

PokerStars - $0.25 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 4 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: $235.20
UTG: $23.19
BTN: $48.02
Hero (SB): $25.60

Hero posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has A Q 2 A

fold, BTN raises to $0.75, Hero raises to $2.00, fold, BTN calls $1.25

Flop: ($4.25, 2 players) T K 8
Hero bets $3.00, BTN calls $3.00

Turn: ($10.25, 2 players) 9
Hero checks, BTN bets $6.75, fold
It depends on your own OOP 3betting range. If it's narrow (AA-heavy), barrelling isn't fun without A and I'm inclined to c/f. If it's wide enough, you can rep QJ+A/K/T/9/8 well (or a flushdraw in case it closes ) and I find it a good texture for triple barrelling (folding to his raises obv).
Quote:
Originally Posted by loveminuszero
PokerStars - $0.05 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

Hero (SB): $5.00
BB: $2.00
UTG: $3.52
CO: $11.66
BTN: $4.40

Hero posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero has 4 6 5 7

UTG calls $0.05, fold, BTN calls $0.05, Hero raises to $0.20, fold, UTG calls $0.15, BTN calls $0.15

Flop: ($0.65, 3 players) J 4 K
Hero checks, UTG checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($0.65, 3 players) 5
Hero bets $0.30, UTG calls $0.30, fold

River: ($1.25, 2 players) 3
Hero bets $0.60, UTG raises to $1.20, fold

UTG wins $2.35
Pot preflop and on the turn, otherwise wp (pricesetting the river is good).
Quote:
Originally Posted by easypil
oppo is 89/34/23, down 2 buyins over 60 hands


iPoker - €0.20 PL Hi (2 max) - Omaha Hi - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: €30.38
Hero (SB): €31.55

Hero posts SB €0.10, BB posts BB €0.20

Pre Flop: (pot: €0.30) Hero has A J T A

Hero raises to €0.60, BB raises to €1.80, Hero raises to €5.30, BB calls €3.50

Flop: (€10.60, 2 players) 6 9 9
BB checks, Hero bets €5.30, BB raises to €10.60, Hero raises to €26.25, BB calls €14.48

Turn: (€60.76, 2 players) 3

River: (€60.76, 2 players) 3

BB shows 9 7 A T (Three of a Kind, Nines) (Pre 29%, Flop 91%, Turn 97%)
Hero shows A J T A (Two Pair, Aces and Nines) (Pre 71%, Flop 9%, Turn 3%)
BB wins €60.01
Hero wins €0.00
Fold to his raise - minraises usually mean trips+ at the micros - otherwise wp.
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09-24-2012 , 02:55 AM
Hand 1:

Villain is 17/15, passive over 100ish hands. 60% c/f on the flop after calling PF..

Unsure if I should be checking or betting the flop. When facing the raise, do we fold?

OnGame - $0.10 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

Hero (BTN): $10.00
SB: $11.33
BB: $5.92
UTG: $16.20
CO: $3.90

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: ($0.20) Hero has 4 9 9 A

fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.40, fold, BB calls $0.30

Flop: ($0.90, 2 players) 6 3 5
BB checks, Hero bets $0.60, BB raises to $2.50, Hero raises to $8.40, BB calls $3.02 and is all-in

Turn: ($11.94, 2 players) 5

River: ($11.94, 2 players) 4


Hand2:
Villain is 62/20, 22 AgFr over 50 hands, 40% fold2cbet

B/f turn? C/c ? C/f ?

Merge - $0.10 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BTN: $18.36
SB: $5.17
Hero (BB): $10.22
UTG: $13.89
MP: $17.12
CO: $9.34

SB posts SB $0.05, Hero posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero has Q A J A

UTG calls $0.10, fold, fold, BTN calls $0.10, SB calls $0.05, Hero raises to $0.50, UTG calls $0.40, BTN calls $0.40, fold

Flop: ($1.60, 3 players) 3 6 6
Hero bets $1.00, UTG calls $1.00, fold

Turn: ($3.60, 2 players) 4
Hero checks, UTG bets $1.80, fold
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09-24-2012 , 04:14 AM
Hand 1 - check back flop and look to spike. We can bet Turn if V checks and also bluff 7 and 8 with our blockers and a FD for back up if we get called.

As played I'm folding now. If you flat it's still going in on the turn. The only card that helps is a club and I wouldn't be happy to get it in if V continues.

Hand 2 - I'm bet folding Turn. Villain still has lots of over-pairs in his range on this board that we can get value from.
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09-24-2012 , 07:56 AM
My impression of BTN is that he is a mediocre reg. He raises 54% of BTNs first-in and so far he hasn't folded to a 3-Bet on the BTN over 805 hands. Would you 3-Bet this for value?

$0.50 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $75.91
SB: $48.50
Hero (BB): $50.00
UTG: $46.00
CO: $105.75

SB posts SB $0.50, Hero posts BB $0.50

Pre Flop: (pot: $1.00) Hero has J 3 Q Q

fold, fold, BTN raises to $2.00, fold, Hero
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09-24-2012 , 11:27 AM
No because
1. you're OOP
2. You have QQJ3ss

You can try calling and donking dry flops to see how he reacts.

If the 3d were a K, T or 9 of spades, I might 3B.

Ask yourself why you're 3 betting. Guy sounds like a station so you're going to have to barrel like crazy to get a fold.
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09-25-2012 , 11:56 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ankimo
No because
1. you're OOP
2. You have QQJ3ss

You can try calling and donking dry flops to see how he reacts.

If the 3d were a K, T or 9 of spades, I might 3B.

Ask yourself why you're 3 betting. Guy sounds like a station so you're going to have to barrel like crazy to get a fold.
I'm not 3-Betting this, I just wondered if somebody is 3-Betting this, because it is a favourite against his calling range.
I don't think it plays that well and when I get it in on the flop I am rarely dominating my opponent unless I have a set. Thanks for your input.
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09-25-2012 , 02:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by IsaacAsimov
I'm not 3-Betting this, I just wondered if somebody is 3-Betting this, because it is a favourite against his calling range.
I don't think it plays that well and when I get it in on the flop I am rarely dominating my opponent unless I have a set. Thanks for your input.
Hi,

You might be a favourite pre but if you are it's not by much. The problem is this hand flops really badly and you'll have no clue where you are post flop oop.

Pairs play well in multiway pots. HU oop in bloated pots = really unfun times.



p.s also helps when they have good side cards like 9TJJ or TJQQ etc

Hope this helps.
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09-25-2012 , 06:21 PM
Poker Stars $50.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players - View hand 1918072
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

BTN: $71.25
Hero (SB): $51.59
BB: $133.82
UTG: $83.35
MP: $53.68
CO: $37.58

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is SB with K Q A A
UTG raises to $1.75, MP calls $1.75, CO calls $1.75, BTN calls $1.75, Hero raises to $11, 2 folds, MP calls $9.25, CO calls $9.25, BTN calls $9.25

Flop: ($46.25) 3 5 J (4 players)
Hero bets $22.00, MP raises to $42.68, CO folds, BTN folds, Hero calls $18.59 all in

Turn: ($127.43) T (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($127.43) A (2 players - 1 is all in)

Never sure what I should do in these situations. Board is pretty dry. If I bet I think I am almost always priced in to call off, am I not?
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09-26-2012 , 02:34 AM
4way check re-evaluate. Mostly folding. Don't like 3betting OOP when you're likely to go 4ways and you don't have a suit.
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09-26-2012 , 08:58 AM
Ever folding here after putting in the flop reraise? I'm guessing this is just a cooler....



    Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #14022552

    Hero (BTN): $27.78 (111.1 bb)
    SB: $16.95 (67.8 bb)
    BB: $25 (100 bb)
    UTG: $25 (100 bb)
    MP: $22.78 (91.1 bb)
    CO: $8.04 (32.2 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BTN with T Q Q 9
    UTG folds, MP calls $0.25, CO raises to $1.10, Hero calls $1.10, 2 folds, MP calls $0.85

    Flop: ($3.65) 3 T T (3 players)
    MP checks, CO bets $3.49, Hero raises to $8.73, MP raises to $21.68 and is all-in, CO calls $3.45 and is all-in, Hero calls $12.95

    Turn: ($53.95) 3 (3 players, 2 are all-in)
    River: ($53.95) 2 (3 players, 2 are all-in)

    Results: $53.95 pot ($2 rake)
    Final Board: 3 T T 3 2
    Hero showed T Q Q 9 and lost (-$22.78 net)
    MP showed T Q 5 3 and won $51.95 ($29.17 net)
    CO showed Q 9 A A and lost (-$8.04 net)



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    Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour Quote
    09-26-2012 , 09:01 AM
    Whats the best line on the flop?


      Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 4 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #14022562

      BB: $9.06 (36.2 bb)
      CO: $26.84 (107.4 bb)
      Hero (BTN): $45.12 (180.5 bb)
      SB: $16.70 (66.8 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BTN with J 9 7 T
      CO raises to $0.75, Hero raises to $2.50, SB folds, BB calls $2.25, CO calls $1.75

      Flop: ($7.60) 9 8 4 (3 players)
      BB checks, CO checks, Hero bets $3.63, 2 folds




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      I bet with out really having a plan. Should I bet/fold, bet/call or check it back?

      Thanks for any answers
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      09-26-2012 , 09:04 AM
      Is it standard to fold a hand with an ace vs a 3 bet from an unknown? for example like this hand? Or is that just silly tight?

      Cheers guys!


        Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 5 Players
        Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #14022572

        BB: $25 (100 bb)
        MP: $5 (20 bb)
        Hero (CO): $30.42 (121.7 bb)
        BTN: $17.33 (69.3 bb)
        SB: $20.78 (83.1 bb)

        Preflop: Hero is CO with A Q K 9
        MP folds, Hero raises to $0.75, BTN folds, SB raises to $2.50, BB folds, Hero calls $1.75

        Flop: ($5.25) 4 8 5 (2 players)
        SB bets $3.75, Hero folds




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        09-26-2012 , 01:24 PM
        never fold to a 3b IP basically.
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        09-26-2012 , 09:45 PM
        Quote:
        Originally Posted by Habsfan09
        Poker Stars $50.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players - View hand 1918072
        DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

        BTN: $71.25
        Hero (SB): $51.59
        BB: $133.82
        UTG: $83.35
        MP: $53.68
        CO: $37.58

        Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is SB with K Q A A
        UTG raises to $1.75, MP calls $1.75, CO calls $1.75, BTN calls $1.75, Hero raises to $11, 2 folds, MP calls $9.25, CO calls $9.25, BTN calls $9.25

        Flop: ($46.25) 3 5 J (4 players)
        Hero bets $22.00, MP raises to $42.68, CO folds, BTN folds, Hero calls $18.59 all in

        Turn: ($127.43) T (2 players - 1 is all in)

        River: ($127.43) A (2 players - 1 is all in)

        Never sure what I should do in these situations. Board is pretty dry. If I bet I think I am almost always priced in to call off, am I not?
        wp
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        09-26-2012 , 09:55 PM
        Hand 1:

        Villain is 71/23, 38 ag freq. the raise on the flop was instant, thought it may have been a misclick..

        OnGame - $0.10 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha - 6 players
        Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

        CO: $3.66
        Hero (BTN): $10.35
        SB: $11.08
        BB: $3.08
        UTG: $20.90
        MP: $10.42

        SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.10

        Pre Flop: ($0.20) Hero has Q 9 8 6

        UTG raises to $0.40, fold, fold, Hero calls $0.40, SB calls $0.30, fold

        Flop: ($1.30, 3 players) Q 3 9
        SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $1.30, SB raises to $2.60, fold, Hero calls $1.30

        Turn: ($6.50, 2 players) 5
        SB checks, Hero bets $6.50, SB raises to $8.08 and is all-in, Hero calls $0.85 and is all-in

        River: ($21.20, 2 players) T

        Hand 2:

        Villain is 93/83/10, 56 Ag freq over 50 hands. 25% fold to cbet.

        OnGame - $0.10 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha - 4 players
        Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

        BTN: $20.43
        Hero (SB): $12.38
        BB: $4.58
        UTG: $14.66

        Hero posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.10

        Pre Flop: ($0.20) Hero has T K J A

        fold, BTN raises to $0.40, Hero raises to $1.30, fold, BTN calls $0.90

        Flop: ($2.70, 2 players) 8 8 7
        Hero bets $1.40, BTN calls $1.40

        Turn: ($5.50, 2 players) 3
        Hero checks, BTN checks

        River: ($5.50, 2 players) 9
        Hero bets $3.00, BTN raises to $14.50, fold

        ?!?!
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        09-27-2012 , 07:39 AM
        both well played
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