Assume its zoom and we are readless. Calling for pot control is best in a vacuum. BvB or not, particularly with the K blocker his pot sized donk is usually very strong here.

PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha, $0.25 BB (4 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Button ($63.66)
Hero (SB) ($51.93)
BB ($25)
UTG ($7.50)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q, 7, Q, 7
2 folds, Hero bets $0.75, BB raises to $2.25, Hero calls $1.50

Flop: ($4.50) J, 8, 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $3.25, BB calls $3.25

Turn: ($11) 10 (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $3.75, Hero calls $3.75

River: ($18.50) 9 (2 players) - I'm pretty much clueless in this hand.. How should it be played? Have 6hands on BB and he hasn't played any of them so his preflop 3bet range prolly isn't too wide.

I would bet the river an amount that's likely to get called by a smaller flush. Your range is super well defined by your line so i don't really think you can extract much value by checking and getting villain to bluff a worse hand.

I don't like the turn check much either. I would just keep betting (around 60% I guess). Oh and flop bet size seems a little big. You get called by a wider range if you ~halfpot and it makes your bluff-stabs cheaper if you care about balanceing your sizing.

So when I cbet turn I basically want him to call his sets/straights and lower flushes? I wasn't sure if those call my turn bet since it looks like I have a flush pretty much always here donking and barreling.

PokerStars - $2 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: $189.00
UTG: $74.80
MP: $352.04
CO: $208.42
Hero (BTN): $380.20
SB: $443.73

SB posts SB $1.00, BB posts BB $2.00

Pre Flop: (pot: $3.00) Hero has 8 J 4 7

fold, MP raises to $7.00, fold, Hero raises to $24.00, fold, fold, MP calls $17.00

Flop: ($51.00, 2 players) 4 3 8
MP checks, Hero bets $36.52, MP calls $36.52

Turn: ($124.04, 2 players) Q
MP checks, Hero bets $90.00, MP raises to $291.52 and is all-in, fold

MP wins $301.24

Meh, guess dont get shoved on with much less than 2p, 66/24 fish 34 wtsd 50 fold to cbet but has shown some agrressiveness

turnbet is mandatory right?

(This is all imo)

Once you donk the flop you're defining your hand as a flush, a purebluff or a "semibluff" with 2-pair or sets. Personally I'm not a fan of donking sets cause we hate getting raised and we don't mind c/c. With 2-pair here I'm not sure if I like a donk, but I'm there could be reasons for it.

So when I donk this flop, my range is (any) flush or a pure bluff. If I then go ahead and check/call the turn I've basically told my opponent my hand. It's a flush. So that's why a flop donk followed by check/call wouldn't work for me. It just allows any semi-thinking opponent to play perfectly vs me.

If however I lead the turn I still keep bluffs in my range. So I'm making it harder for my opponent to play correctly. An added benefit is that I don't allow my opponent to freecard me. I think I'm also making it less likely for me to make a mistake in the hand, although this could be debated. A really nasty spot here is if we check, villain bets close to pot, we call and river blanks and villain pots again. So I feel continuing the aggression is a better way of negating our positional disadvantage, since we can pretty comfortably bet/fold.

PokerStars Zoom Pot-Limit Omaha, $0.02 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Button ($1.81)
SB ($8.50)
BB ($2.80)
UTG ($0.81)
MP ($0.94)
Hero (CO) ($6.64)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A, A, 10, 8
1 fold, MP calls $0.02, Hero bets $0.09, 1 fold, SB raises to $0.31, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.22

Flop: ($0.66) 7, J, 10 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($0.66) K (2 players)
SB bets $0.64, Hero calls $0.64

River: ($1.94) J (2 players)
SB bets $0.93, Hero raises to $3.10, 1 fold

Total pot: $3.80 | Rake: $0.13



So I raise with decent aces and get 3bet from the sb. Stacks are a little too deep (300bb+) to 4bet here so I flat in position.
standard flop/turn, river I think i can easily rep KK/KJ and raise to fold out another AA (possible since he 3bet), AQ (or AAQX), q9 (unlikely)
Is this a good move or not opinions

villain timed down and folded

[converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 2 Players
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SB: $787.81 (787.8 bb)
Hero (BB): $154.23 (154.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with T J K K
SB raises to $2, Hero raises to $6, SB calls $4

Flop: ($12) 9 2 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $8, SB calls $8

Turn: ($28) 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $20, SB calls $20

River: ($68) 4 (2 players)
Hero bets $46, SB calls $46

std to go for 3streets here against station?

[converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 2 Players
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BB: $77.28 (77.3 bb)
Hero (SB): $105.23 (105.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J 5 A Q
Hero raises to $3, BB calls $2

Flop: ($6) T K 9 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $5, BB calls $5

Turn: ($16) 4 (2 players)
BB bets $11.62

What's the std line here w/o a redraw to flush?

Disclaimer: Not a HU player.

1st seems standard.
2nd you can either raise pot, or call, obviously shoving the few blanks left in the deck, and deciding on others based on the card and villain's action. By potting I think you can make it about 50, so he'd have like 20 more behind. I prefer potting.

1: std
2: shove. In my experience villains will have a wide range here and stacks are shallow. It's going to be harder to extract value on the river than by shoving now. To many scarecards that will either force you to play passively (river is a diamond/club/pairs the board and villain bets small) or possibly scare villain off his hand (river is a club/diamond/J/Q and villain check/folds).

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SB ($58.97) - seems solid over the couple hands we played
Hero (BB) ($51.36)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K, A, A, 10
SB bets $1.50, Hero raises to $4.50, SB calls $3

Flop: ($9) 2, 3, J (2 players)
Hero bets $5, SB calls $5 - Usually I would make it 6 but the flop was pretty dry so I just went with 5

Turn: ($19) 2 (2 players)
Hero bets $11.50, SB raises to $26.50 - What is my play from now on? :P

I can't see how we can do anything but fold without a read. We can't really discount trip deuces much from villain's range without knowing his preflop tendencies. And I won't give a random plo50 player credit for pulling off a bluff with a J or 45 here without a read.

It's just people say 100deep in 3bet pots we can't fold too much but I guess a raise on the turn can't be too bluffy and there is nothing worse he would value raise.

Villain is unknown (not Zoom)
My question is about turn. Keep betting right?
Thanks for response

Yeah, now I see that too. Thanks!

Yes, bet/fold turn unless he does something dumb with his raise size.

I think river check is good and I would probably call any size bet. Villain is unlikely to have 89 since he would shove the turn most of the time. So we're facing KQ or missed flushdraws and I think there's enough combos of missed FD's to make a call profitable even for a pot sized bet. Haven't done the math though.

Cool, Thanks!

Just start PLO and I find difficult to play against unreasonable (70/20) or unknown players since some of them can call here with top set 3 streets and some of them might shove flop/turn with... I don't know... pair+gutshot

I think calling 3 streets with top set isn't that bad of a play in villain's shoes, depending on what cards fall and your redraws. River is probably the closest but I would definitely c/c the flop and most likely c/c the turn if I had no FD or nut SD.

And you won't find many at plo50 that will flat flop then shove turn with anything but the goods. In any case, you had no read so you have to play the best strategy vs the field of players. When you play more you'll get a good feel on how the average player plays to make these general plays. And then you just adjust from the general plays to the player as you gather reads.

Vilain is a nit playing 17/10/4, so I guess he's got aces there all the time.


PokerStars - $2 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: $224.06
Hero (BB): $324.52
UTG: $200.00
MP: $228.18
CO: $250.98
BTN: $76.37

SB posts SB $1.00, Hero posts BB $2.00

Pre Flop: (pot: $3.00) Hero has 3 K 4 A

fold, fold, CO raises to $7.00, fold, fold, Hero raises to $22.00, CO raises to $67.00, Hero calls $45.00

Flop: ($135.00, 2 players) T 2 3
Hero checks, CO bets $110.00, fold

CO wins $132.20


OK ?

So villain is very loose aggressive, and IMO a bit spewey. I really don't feel comfortable folding KK to a 4bet, but I don't know how much good can come from jamming single suited kings.

Should I just be flatting any Kings I'm not willing to 5bet/feel really fine about calling a 4bet with. This is not exactly an easy hand to play OOP having just 1 suit and limited connectivity...

Was considering a c/jam on river rather heavily but decided against it as I thought there were enough potential stabs on the river after I'd shown this much weakness.

Villain 21/15 AF:2 177 hands
Flop cbet 94% Passive on turn.

Does he really play AK like this?

How else should he play it? He raises pre, flops the nuts so he bets, then he gets donked into small. Should he flat there and allow you to get a cheap rivercard? I would shove in his spot 100%.

Don't like your turn donk one bit. It prevents him from taking free cards but the negative side to it is that it forces you to put a lot of money in the pot and you are behind his range every single time that happens.

Pretty thin 3bet vs someone that tight.
Fold to the 4bet.

Maybe I took this thinking from hold'em, but when he bet small on the 3way flop i didn't put him on nut straight I thought he has lower set or low end of a straight, maybe even 2 pair(not likely), and when he check turn (he check btw, i did not donk into him) it made me believe even more that he has some weak made hand(thats why i bet smallish) or maybe miss flop and giving up now (looking his 94% flop с bet, size of flop cbet and passive turn stats). When he raise i was confused and was thinking that he might have the same str8+weak FD and decide to play it this way or..idk...some weird hand I was really confused..

Can you, please, comment on this thought process