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07-09-2012 , 02:34 PM
is this line fine vs some1 3betting 27%?

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SB ($25)
BB ($15)
Hero ($73.40)

Dealt to Hero T 9 7 6

Hero raises to $0.85, SB raises to $2.80, fold, Hero raises to $8.65, SB calls $5.85

FLOP ($17.55) K K 8

SB checks, Hero bets $4.20
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07-09-2012 , 02:41 PM
also on a scale of 1-10 how ******ed is this 3 barrel?

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Hero ($25)
BB ($13.81)
UTG ($45.71)
CO ($5.45)
BTN ($25)

Dealt to Hero A 3 J 9

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.75, BB calls $0.50

FLOP ($1.50) T Q 7

Hero bets $1.12, BB calls $1.12

TURN ($3.74) T Q 7 3

Hero bets $2.80, BB calls $2.80

RIVER ($9.34) T Q 7 3 T

Hero bets $9.34
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07-09-2012 , 04:35 PM
I fold that pre for sure unless bb is some super huge nit and raising an insane % of hand in the sb shows an immediate profit. Betting flop is ok i guess but I don't really like barreling past that since he will most likely continue on turn with so many draws. River is villain dependent but In general I don't like it...

Edit: 3/10 imo...
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07-10-2012 , 03:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by white_mike
insane % of hand in the sb
u mean the button? i think this hand is fine on the button

here is kinda a similar spot

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PL Omaha $0.25(BB) Replayer
SB ($24.62)
BB ($25)
Hero ($88.79)
CO ($16)
BTN ($52.79)

Dealt to Hero 8 9 J A

Hero raises to $0.85, CO calls $0.85, fold, fold, fold

FLOP ($2.05) 6 7 A

Hero bets $1.53, CO calls $1.53

TURN ($5.11) 6 7 A 2

Hero bets $3.60

is this 2 barrel good vs a passive player, and what do u do on river?
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07-10-2012 , 03:32 PM
I'm bluffing every river that doesnt give me 2 pair. And probably vbetting any 2pair that's not spades.
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07-10-2012 , 06:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mhowe
is this line fine vs some1 3betting 27%?

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SB ($25)
BB ($15)
Hero ($73.40)

Dealt to Hero T 9 7 6

Hero raises to $0.85, SB raises to $2.80, fold, Hero raises to $8.65, SB calls $5.85

FLOP ($17.55) K K 8

SB checks, Hero bets $4.20
Wow, 27% is a tonne. If he really is 3betting that much then he should fold plenty here but that sizing he might peel v wide. I was thinking cb 1/2 pot to make your hand look more legit, but then I got to wondering what he'd do w/ fd's. I might just mash the pot button to maximize FE vs fd's but I'm not sure if that's worth it compared to 1/2 psb.

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Originally Posted by mhowe
also on a scale of 1-10 how ******ed is this 3 barrel?

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PL Omaha $0.25(BB) Replayer
Hero ($25)
BB ($13.81)
UTG ($45.71)
CO ($5.45)
BTN ($25)

Dealt to Hero A 3 J 9

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.75, BB calls $0.50

FLOP ($1.50) T Q 7

Hero bets $1.12, BB calls $1.12

TURN ($3.74) T Q 7 3

Hero bets $2.80, BB calls $2.80

RIVER ($9.34) T Q 7 3 T

Hero bets $9.34
I agree with everything mike says on this hand. There's a tonne of draws he can continue with so that leaves us lost as to which rivers we can bluff & which we can't.
As played if you know villain can fold a flush you got a pretty nice card. But I wouldn't count on a random player folding a flush that he just hit, they sometimes get overly attached cause they just got there & they can't fold now!
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07-10-2012 , 06:42 PM
V quick question, are you cbetting this 4 ways? I felt a bit unsure.
Button is 20/8, SB is 24/14, BB is 12/8. So pretty tight ranges all round, which adds to the arguments for cbetting cause these guys miss this flop a lot.

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    BB: $46.37 (231.8 bb)
    Hero (MP): $25.93 (129.6 bb)
    CO: $15 (75 bb)
    BTN: $20 (100 bb)
    SB: $35.13 (175.7 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is MP with A 7 6 A
    CO posts BB OOP, Hero raises to $1, CO folds, BTN calls $1, SB calls $0.90, BB calls $0.80

    Flop: ($4.30) 7 2 4 (4 players)
    SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $2.40, 2 folds, BB raises to $4.80, Hero folds





    Villain is 51/6 over ~400 hands. Would you cb this turn? He'll continue w/ worse Tx, 7x+gs type stuff, 89, AT/JJ/QQ & obv 2x. But he'll also fold some random sht that he peeled otf like bdfd stuff, bare gs+oc, so folding out those hands is pretty good for our hand. Standard?


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      UTG: $22.88 (114.4 bb)
      Hero (MP): $20.66 (103.3 bb)
      CO: $26.85 (134.3 bb)
      BTN: $22.11 (110.6 bb)
      SB: $12.55 (62.8 bb)
      BB: $18.80 (94 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is MP with 4 K J T
      UTG folds, Hero raises to $0.70, 2 folds, SB calls $0.60, BB folds

      Flop: ($1.60) 7 T 2 (2 players)
      SB checks, Hero bets $1, SB calls $1

      Turn: ($3.60) 2 (2 players)
      SB checks, Hero bets $2.40

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      07-11-2012 , 06:15 AM
      ya I think both of those are ok. Both are pretty much protection bets and I think its fine. Hand 2 I think your range seems pretty good for this player type so I would just bet to fold out those gutshot type hands or like a7** type hands that peeled flop. Hand 1 is closer and in game I am a little unsure of these spots myself but you obv can't call almost all turns so I think I like betting here as well to fold out one pair hands and reeval turn if called...
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      07-11-2012 , 12:06 PM
      Cool cool.
      Yeah in hand one it's like the flop is our only chance to win the hand.
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      07-12-2012 , 05:28 PM
      Limper is 45/0 over 80. The button is 42/21 over 21.
      C/f flop is def a no no I think.

      I'm 20% vs Tx so If I bet I'm gonna get nearly the right price on the call no matter what. They're def just out right folding sometimes too though so I think I gotta go.

      Also once we're flatted otf we're done, correct? Despite the ridic spr he's always got us.

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        MP: $20.76 (103.8 bb)
        CO: $14.74 (73.7 bb)
        BTN: $32.89 (164.5 bb)
        SB: $20 (100 bb)
        Hero (BB): $20 (100 bb)
        UTG: $18.59 (92.9 bb)

        Preflop: Hero is BB with K Q Q K
        2 folds, CO calls $0.20, BTN raises to $0.90, SB folds, Hero raises to $3, CO calls $2.80, BTN calls $2.10

        Flop: ($9.10) T 2 T (3 players)
        Hero bets $7, CO folds, BTN calls $7

        Turn: ($23.10) 6 (2 players)


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        07-13-2012 , 07:36 AM
        Idk these spots are tough...seems pretty weak to c/f turn but I think most weaker hands he's peeling that you're ahead of just try to showdown anyway. I will say that flop bet sizing is pretty bad I think...b/c is def too loose imo so I would prob b/f like 4-5 OTF and check most turns if called. I just don't see people really making moves on these flops enough to have a reason to do anything else.
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        07-14-2012 , 04:57 PM
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          SB: $73.24 (73.2 bb)
          BB: $115.22 (115.2 bb)
          MP: $294.14 (294.1 bb)
          Hero (CO): $100 (100 bb)
          BTN: $245.46 (245.5 bb)

          Preflop: Hero is CO with 9 9 6 6
          MP folds, Hero raises to $3.50, BTN calls $3.50, SB calls $3, BB raises to $17.50, Hero calls $14, BTN calls $14, SB raises to $73.24 and is all-in, BB raises to $115.22 and is all-in, Hero calls $82.50 and is all-in, BTN calls $97.72

          Flop: ($403.68) 9 Q Q (4 players, 3 are all-in)
          Turn: ($403.68) K (4 players, 3 are all-in)
          River: ($403.68) 7 (4 players, 3 are all-in)




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          Initial sqzer is new to the table, btn is 25/17, 3.8% 3b, SB is 19/13 over a small sample. Gambol? Fold pre first/second time?
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          07-14-2012 , 08:27 PM
          Quote:
          Originally Posted by mhowe
          is this line fine vs some1 3betting 27%?

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          PL Omaha $0.25(BB) Replayer
          SB ($25)
          BB ($15)
          Hero ($73.40)

          Dealt to Hero T 9 7 6

          Hero raises to $0.85, SB raises to $2.80, fold, Hero raises to $8.65, SB calls $5.85

          FLOP ($17.55) K K 8

          SB checks, Hero bets $4.20
          I think with this hand maybe better to flat 3bet n play a smaller pot IP? Is he auto betting in 3 pot oop with that wide range?


          4bet him w more big card hands could be better to more confidently get in top pair post w the lower SPR

          On the flop you actually got I don't think he will appreciate The nuance of your sizing (that you would bet this amount also w top of ure range). I think he may just notice that you have bet small and peel wide.
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          07-15-2012 , 03:06 AM
          Standard? Note he posted oop. UTG has a unique playstyle (he's a huge fish).



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            MP: $50.41 (201.6 bb)
            Hero (CO): $63.78 (255.1 bb)
            BTN: $76.89 (307.6 bb)
            SB: $62.20 (248.8 bb)
            BB: $62.45 (249.8 bb)
            UTG: $19.28 (77.1 bb)

            Preflop: Hero is CO with 7 K K A
            MP posts BB OOP, UTG calls $0.25, MP raises to $1.40, Hero raises to $5.10, 3 folds, UTG calls $4.85, MP raises to $21.05, Hero raises to $63.73 and is all-in, UTG calls $14.13 and is all-in, MP calls $29.31 and is all-in

            Flop: ($120.60) 2 Q T (3 players, 3 are all-in)
            Turn: ($120.60) 6 (3 players, 3 are all-in)
            River: ($120.60) 8 (3 players, 3 are all-in)

            Spoiler:
            Results: $120.60 pot ($2 rake)
            Final Board: 2 Q T 6 8
            MP showed A 6 A 5 and won $62.26 ($11.85 net)
            Hero mucked 7 K K A and lost (-$50.41 net)
            UTG showed 6 7 T J and won $56.34 ($37.06 net)



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            07-15-2012 , 07:12 AM
            I dont think it's standard readless.

            You have a blocker and he posted so yeah.
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            07-15-2012 , 04:45 PM
            Quote:
            Originally Posted by vaJAZzled
            I dont think it's standard readless.

            You have a blocker and he posted so yeah.
            This.
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            07-18-2012 , 02:35 AM
            Is this ok or a lolo_spew?

            Poker Stars $0.05/$0.10 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players - View hand 1828278
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            SB: $18.79
            BB: $10.21
            UTG: $9.80
            MP: $11.94
            Hero (CO): $10.00
            BTN: $7.52

            Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is CO with T Q 9 J


            UTG raises to $0.30, 1 fold, Hero raises to $1.05, BTN calls $1.05, SB raises to $4, 2 folds, Hero raises to $10 all in,
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            07-18-2012 , 11:31 AM
            Looks standard to me.
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            07-18-2012 , 05:48 PM
            Quote:
            Originally Posted by bumpnrun
            Is this ok or a lolo_spew?

            Poker Stars $0.05/$0.10 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players - View hand 1828278
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            SB: $18.79
            BB: $10.21
            UTG: $9.80
            MP: $11.94
            Hero (CO): $10.00
            BTN: $7.52

            Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is CO with T Q 9 J


            UTG raises to $0.30, 1 fold, Hero raises to $1.05, BTN calls $1.05, SB raises to $4, 2 folds, Hero raises to $10 all in,
            The alternative is folding & that's no fun!
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            07-18-2012 , 05:53 PM
            Pre isn't important. Just wondering about post.
            The donk is for value & protection. Villain is 20/10 over 97. So when he peels flop he has some fd but I'm mostly expecting a peel from QQ+ & maybe JJ? Also 5x sometimes but I don't see a tonne of them in his range.

            I posted a hand similar to this & was told I overplayed it. So I'm wondering now, did I overplay it? I subscribe to the "nobody folds a boat" vs non regs a lot & perhaps this is colouring my perception of how much value I can get?

            Thoughts? Smaller turn/smaller river?

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              SB: $27.77 (138.9 bb)
              Hero (BB): $20.97 (104.9 bb)
              UTG: $21.16 (105.8 bb)
              MP: $21.30 (106.5 bb)
              CO: $39.72 (198.6 bb)
              BTN: $20.75 (103.8 bb)

              Preflop: Hero is BB with 4 A Q A
              UTG raises to $0.70, MP folds, CO calls $0.70, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.50

              Flop: ($2.20) 5 5 9 (3 players)
              Hero bets $1.50, UTG folds, CO calls $1.50

              Turn: ($5.20) 5 (2 players)
              Hero bets $4, CO calls $4

              River: ($13.20) 8 (2 players)
              Hero bets $13.20

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              07-18-2012 , 06:25 PM
              no reads, leaning toward bet/raise>bet/call but cant seem to figure it out can he maybe play perfectly against us if we raise. Feels like a call IP seems fine, but many non heart turn propably going to be pretty bad for us.. Every time I look at the board it seems like a raise then call whatever he have left above that seems best.

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              BTN: $17.12 (171.2 bb)
              SB: $10 (100 bb)
              BB: $10 (100 bb)
              Hero (UTG): $17.24 (172.4 bb)
              MP: $19.43 (194.3 bb)
              CO: $10.90 (109 bb)

              Preflop: Hero is UTG with A A 2 8
              Hero raises to $0.35, 4 folds, BB calls $0.25

              Flop: ($0.75) 8 K T (2 players)
              BB checks, Hero bets $0.50, BB raises to $1.45, Hero ??
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              07-18-2012 , 06:39 PM
              commit 3b
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              07-18-2012 , 06:53 PM
              Stack that **** optimus! Overpear+fd is quite a good hand.
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              07-19-2012 , 07:11 AM
              nfd even.

              You crush all his draws (wraps, fd+pair, fd+sd) and you aren't that far behind in case he has you beat with 2 pair or sets.
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              07-19-2012 , 07:49 AM
              Quote:
              Originally Posted by Envoy222
              Pre isn't important. Just wondering about post.
              The donk is for value & protection. Villain is 20/10 over 97. So when he peels flop he has some fd but I'm mostly expecting a peel from QQ+ & maybe JJ? Also 5x sometimes but I don't see a tonne of them in his range.

              I posted a hand similar to this & was told I overplayed it. So I'm wondering now, did I overplay it? I subscribe to the "nobody folds a boat" vs non regs a lot & perhaps this is colouring my perception of how much value I can get?

              Thoughts? Smaller turn/smaller river?

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                SB: $27.77 (138.9 bb)
                Hero (BB): $20.97 (104.9 bb)
                UTG: $21.16 (105.8 bb)
                MP: $21.30 (106.5 bb)
                CO: $39.72 (198.6 bb)
                BTN: $20.75 (103.8 bb)

                Preflop: Hero is BB with 4 A Q A
                UTG raises to $0.70, MP folds, CO calls $0.70, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.50

                Flop: ($2.20) 5 5 9 (3 players)
                Hero bets $1.50, UTG folds, CO calls $1.50

                Turn: ($5.20) 5 (2 players)
                Hero bets $4, CO calls $4

                River: ($13.20) 8 (2 players)
                Hero bets $13.20

                "Bump"
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