The fact that my nick is censored was first discovered long ago by Envoy222 in eldodo42's strat thread.

KQT2ss is trash (PPT's 35-43%, better multiway), if you feel like stealing 40% from CO you're welcome, the fact that they'll seldom 3bet helps you, but I feel I bleed chips from CO on my loose-aggro tables, so I'm too biased I guess, especially because I tend to limp a bit more due to the weird contributed-like rake calculation method for my RB (the rake is divided equally between everyone who PIPed, incl. the blinds, if the flop was dealt); Stars use weighted contributed so I'd openfold the 1st hand there.

Wolfram's sim is a bit inaccurate because BTN has 3bet in the 1st hand, so his range is much narrower than 9% and is more weighted to suited aces, the same applies to the 4bettor, plus they'll go less a bit less mad on flushdraw boards if they don't have the NFD.

29/19 OK stats @ micros?

preflop stats dont matter,

except for BTN/SB/BB vpip.and then look at your post flop game

I'm calling the 3bet in the first hand although I could be convinced that's possibly a mistake.

In the second hand I think 3betting it and flatting it are both fine, probably leaning towards 3betting. Calling the 4bet is probably a mistake but a fairly small one. I'm to lazy to do the math right now. Basically, you have 36.6% equity pre so you need to figure out how often you will flop well enough to continue so that you can realize that equity without having too much of an implied equity disadvantage on the rest of the money.

I don't dispute that KQT2ss is trash. But if you're gonna play it at least try to play it where it has the most value and that is hu in position. To do that, you gotta raise.

So folding might be better than raising but both are better than limping imo.

Fk, I misread the stats and thought he had a 3bet of 9% lol.

But it doesnt change much about my conclusion. We have 81% eq vs top 3% and 90% on an unpaired ddd** board. Same same vs AA** and 90%.

What 4bettor? Are you confusing the hands?

You're assuming they've got a brain. We got a 100% vpip guy in the hand and it's a 3bet 3way bloated pot. People will get it in with any FD here most of the time. And with an SPR of 2 or less it's probably not even much of a mistake.

Now I'm waffling on whether calling the 4bet could be a bigger mistake than I thought at first.

edit:
in the second hand

edit2:
this is why you shouldn't post multiple hands per post. Too much confusion.

cool, thanks guys

btw I asked some advice from oink on the first hand and he basically said "just don't fold".

He also explained how to do the preflop math on the second hand which I might do later if I feel like it.

Ty for last time got helped, got now a few more quick ones.

1. Villain 60/5/7, river agg freq 44% and inf aggression.
Dont know if c/c is superior to b/c since he's such a monkey postflop.

Ongame Network $25.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 5 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

CO: $15.11 - VPIP: 56, PFR: 9, 3B: 6, AF: 1.6, Hands: 179
BTN: $21.25 - VPIP: 67, PFR: 7, 3B: 7, AF: 2.0, Hands: 42
Hero (SB): $31.58 - VPIP: 24, PFR: 16, 3B: 7, AF: 4.1, Hands: 38598
BB: $25.00 - VPIP: 25, PFR: 10, 3B: 4, AF: 2.9, Hands: 631
UTG: $34.47 - VPIP: 15, PFR: 15, 3B: 7, AF: 10.5, Hands: 136

Pre Flop: ($0.50) Hero is SB with K 9 K 2
1 fold, CO calls $0.25, BTN calls $0.25, Hero checks, BB checks

Flop: ($1.00) A K 2 (4 players)
Hero bets $1.00, BB folds, CO folds, BTN calls $1

Turn: ($3.00) 3 (2 players)
Hero bets $3.00, BTN calls $3

River: ($9.00) Q (2 players)
Hero bets $6.00, BTN raises to $17, Hero calls $11



2. Good to value river? Best would imo to start donking from flop..

Ongame Network $25.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

BTN: $51.76 - VPIP: 26, PFR: 15, 3B: 3, AF: 5.2, Hands: 543
Hero (SB): $29.06 - VPIP: 24, PFR: 16, 3B: 7, AF: 4.1, Hands: 38598
BB: $30.89 - VPIP: 39, PFR: 8, 3B: 4, AF: 3.8, Hands: 322
UTG: $2.20 - VPIP: 29, PFR: 21, 3B: 6, AF: 2.7, Hands: 1501
MP: $16.35 - VPIP: 45, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 1.3, Hands: 502
CO: $30.97 - VPIP: 20, PFR: 13, 3B: 0, AF: 3.0, Hands: 30

Pre Flop: ($0.50) Hero is SB with 8 Q A J
1 fold, MP calls $0.25, CO raises to $1.25, 1 fold, Hero calls $1, 1 fold, MP calls $1

Flop: ($4.00) J 8 2 (3 players)
Hero checks, MP checks, CO checks

Turn: ($4.00) 3 (3 players)
Hero bets $4.00, MP calls $4, CO folds

River: ($12.00) 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $12.00, MP calls $11.10 all in



3. Flop is a gogo or not? bet-call or check-raise to get max from bluffs?

Ongame Network $25.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

MP: $6.75 - VPIP: 56, PFR: 40, 3B: 11, AF: 3.3, Hands: 1226
CO: $43.13 - VPIP: 24, PFR: 10, 3B: 1, AF: 2.3, Hands: 2432
BTN: $27.92 - VPIP: 22, PFR: 16, 3B: 6, AF: 5.8, Hands: 2021
Hero (SB): $46.07 - VPIP: 24, PFR: 16, 3B: 7, AF: 4.1, Hands: 38598
BB: $98.84 - VPIP: 38, PFR: 24, 3B: 19, AF: 1.7, Hands: 91
UTG: $50.55 - VPIP: 24, PFR: 19, 3B: 7, AF: 4.0, Hands: 1001

Pre Flop: ($0.50) Hero is SB with 9 A A 8
2 folds, CO raises to $1, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.75, BB raises to $4, 1 fold, Hero raises to $13, BB calls $9

Flop: ($27.00) 6 5 4 (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $27.00, Hero raises to $33.07, BB calls $6.07

Turn: ($93.14) 6 (2 players)

River: ($93.14) 3 (2 players)

Care to copypaste what he said about the preflop math thing?
btw, why doesn't he make plo vids

1) Graph your hand vs villain's range using PPT
2) How much eq do you have PF?
3) Figure out how much eq we need to stack off otf
4) Look in graph to see how often we have that eq
5) Find out how much eq we give up when forced to fold postflop. (Ie the part of the graph where we have less than 22% in this example)
6) Our average eq when stacking of is then: ["PF eq" - "How much eq we give up"] / "stack-off frequency"
7) Use average eq when stack of and stack of frequency to calculate implied odds.
8) Do a simple odds calculation given our imediate odds PF

This assumes that you can estimate your equity on the flop perfectly vs his range.

IGT Poker Network (Entraction) - €0.04 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BB: €3.82
UTG: €5.48
MP: €4.58
Hero (CO): €10.85
BTN: €6.73
SB: €4.80

SB posts SB €0.02, BB posts BB €0.04

Pre Flop: (€0.06) Hero has A 5 K A

UTG calls €0.04, MP calls €0.04, Hero raises to €0.22, BTN calls €0.22, fold, fold, UTG calls €0.18, MP calls €0.18

Flop: (€0.94, 4 players) 6 T K
UTG checks, MP checks, Hero bets €0.70, BTN calls €0.70, fold, fold

Turn: (€2.34, 2 players) A
Hero checks, BTN bets €2.00, Hero

im lost, is this just a std snap fold? villain is spewwy fish could have anything

cool thanks
I actually got to number 4 before I posted this hand and tried to figure it out myself, but I couldn't really continue from there. I still don't really understand how to do no.5 and the rest seems fuzzy to me as well so if you happen to do it please post it

#1 Betting the river is fine, there's enough 2p combo's for him to call us with. I'd b/f though cause most players aren't bluffing in that spot.

#2 Yep, start by donking flop. As played with only a psb behind you can probly vb vs worse 2p/Jx, but there's an awful lot of straights out there so I could be wrong here. Maybe b/f <1/2 pot to make sure you get called by worse, cause I don't know if he calls a psb without a straight.

#3 No need to widen their bluffing range here, no one's gonna be bluffing. So whatever they'll call a bet with, they'll also b/c themselves. So we might as well bet for FE+protection. We don't want to give a free card to some junk that he was gonna fold & now sucked out on us for a big pot!


If he's as spewy as you describe then I'd value bet the turn myself. As played you can jam or fold depending on how often you think he has it. I'd probly fold, bad villain sizing is often representative of their hand str.

Villain is 30/16 over 237 hands. His fvcb in normal pots is 33%, 0/1 in 3b pots. Given that he just called the flop we can significantly narrow his range right? Take out the nuts, take out huge combo draws & be left with op+fd, some 2p hoping we'll shut down & maybe marginal pear+fd type stuff?
I thought we'd get enough folds on this turn & if he doesn't fold we still have some outs for backup.

Thoughts?

I should probably always bet here vs 40/6 type of player?
Like 12 bucks?

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PL Omaha $0.25(BB) Poker Stars
SB ($21.94)
BB ($24.75)
UTG ($25.52)
Hero ($25)
CO ($8)
BTN ($55.46)

CO posts $0.25

Dealt to Hero J T Q T

fold, Hero raises to $1.10, CO calls $0.85, fold, fold, BB calls $0.85

FLOP ($3.40) 5 9 K

BB checks, Hero bets $1.95, CO folds, BB calls $1.95

TURN ($7.30) 5 9 K 7

BB checks, Hero bets $3.75, BB calls $3.75

RIVER ($14.80) 5 9 K 7 6

[color=red]BB checks,

I think I bet here most of the time. Dunno if you need to pot it though. Only reason to pot is to try to get him to fold a small straight and I doubt he ever does, so just bet just over half pot to get him to fold his missed draws and hopefully two pair hands.

I'm also not sure if I like the flop or turn sizing but that's a longer discussion.

I'm not sure either, at all. I just didn't want to turn my hand into a bluff (yet) and don't mind a worse hand (draw) calling.

So that line was partly the reason why I think check back is not a total catastrophe, he can have flush draw + worse pair or somehing.

The problem with checking back the river is that even a drawing hand will so often back into a better hand than yours on this board.

It's very likely for him to have picked up random two pair or have Kxxx or an overpair to your tens that I think it's worth it to go for the 3rd barrel. I think it's profitable as long as he's able to fold those hands. it only has to work about a third of the time.

Bet/shove turn. Never ever fold top set vs. fish.

Check back turn, check back river. All the draws missed, so 2pair or even AK aren't folding the river.

Preflop & flop: wp. Weird turn spot. I think I b/f like $3 since we're more or less bluffing. Once you pot it, you're committed to shoving if he raises, and shoving all rivers if he calls.

All the draws?

There's 3 draws on the flop. One of them got there on the turn and the other two could easily have backed into an 8x straight on the river.

We're trying to rep a low straight draw that continues firing on a flushing board where there's also a higher straight draw? Seems dubious to me.

Well, for one thing we're playing a "40/6 type of player" so it's likely he doesn't even consider what we're repping. He just looks at his hand and the board and goes "Omg, four to a straight, my AK/weak two pair is never good here!".

And even if he's not a purely 0-level thinker and thinks about what we're repping, then why can't we have 6-7-8 that cbets the flop, turns the nuts and keeps betting and then decides to go for thin value on the river with 2nd nuts? Or a flushdraw with an 8 and [5,6,7,9,T] that's now going for thin value? Or QJT8?

We have a lot of straights in our range imo given the line we took. The only thing that gives me pause is the betsizing on the flop and the turn. If we did indeed turn the nuts then we would certainly bet bigger.

im a big fish but I check-call the flop i mean do you really want to bet and get it in w. top 2 and 7-high flush draw. i check-call the flop and check-shove the turn. what do you think about that line?