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09-27-2009 , 07:49 PM
^looks good. might be able to get away with betting smaller on the turn tho
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09-27-2009 , 07:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 2+2=5
standard?

Poker Stars $0.50/$1 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 2 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

Hero (BTN/SB): $131.70
BB: $193.90

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BTN/SB with 8 Q Q J
Hero raises to $3, BB raises to $8, Hero calls $5

Flop: ($16.00) 7 J 6 (2 players)
BB bets $9, Hero raises to $42.50, BB raises to $143, Hero calls $81.20 all in

Turn: ($263.40) Q (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($263.40) 8 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $263.40
i'd just flat the flop with these stack sizes.
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09-27-2009 , 07:56 PM
thx banana
how about this?

Poker Stars $0.50/$1 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 2 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BB: $177.90
Hero (BTN/SB): $126.70

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BTN/SB with A K A 4
Hero raises to $3, BB raises to $9, Hero raises to $27, BB calls $18

Flop: ($54.00) J 9 7 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($54.00) 9 (2 players)
BB bets $28, Hero folds

Final Pot: $54.00
BB wins $53.50
(Rake: $0.50)
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09-27-2009 , 08:23 PM
mmmm I'd prob call turn and fold river unless i had some reads
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09-27-2009 , 08:31 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BananaBalla
mmmm I'd prob call turn and fold river unless i had some reads
so flop check by me is ok? it's 4bet pot but board is so ghey.
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09-27-2009 , 10:50 PM
yah flop is most definitely a check
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09-27-2009 , 11:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by zolih
Hi All!

these call downs are ok?

1. utg is a huge fish 69/8 AQ 18%
on the flop my standard play is either betfold, sometimes check and see what happens. its ok?
on turn should have potbet.
$0.5/$1 Pot Limit Omaha Hi
FullTiltPoker
5 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($40)
CO ($184.55)
BTN ($124.30)
SB ($102)
Hero (BB) ($103.15)

Pre-Flop: ($2.50, 5 players) Hero is BB J J 4 4
[UTG posts $1]
UTG checks, CO calls $1, 1 fold, SB calls $0.50, Hero checks

Flop: 4 5 Q ($4, 4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $4, UTG calls $4, CO calls $4, SB folds

Turn: 10 ($16, 3 players)
Hero bets $12, UTG calls $12, CO calls $12

River: 6 ($52, 3 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $23, CO folds, Hero calls $23

678* completes but other draws didnt. do you ever fold getting 1-3 odds?
bluff these type of players 3way with a busted draw?
I don't like betting out into 2 players with bottom set on this board. Betting bloats the pot OOP and creates good pot odds for the late position player. I may, however, check/raise this flop.
Quote:
Originally Posted by zolih




2.need complete linecheck. enemy is 39/8 AQ 24
pre is ok from co? looks good but almost never flops anything so I need play my position if btn fold.
flop: is ok to not cbet? I would cbet if the 8c would be something like 3c , but now everyhand has something
turn,river: in hu I flat the turn bc he can some weaker hands or he attacking my weakness(missed cbet). but in 3way leading into 2players... dunno... maybe fold.
$0.5/$1 Pot Limit Omaha Hi
FullTiltPoker
4 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
Hero (CO) ($100)
BTN ($278.55)
SB ($170.80)
BB ($108.90)

Pre-Flop: ($1.50, 4 players) Hero is CO 4 A 3 4
Hero raises to $3.50, BTN calls $3.50, SB calls $3, 1 fold

Flop: Q 5 8 ($11.50, 3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: K ($11.50, 3 players)
SB bets $5.75, Hero calls $5.75,?????BTN folds

River: 2 ($23, 2 players)
SB bets $9, Hero calls $9 ?????

soooo cheap but soooo obvious middleflush.
We're not good here often enough to call down. Our investment was relatively small until we called the turn. I fold turn.
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09-28-2009 , 12:00 PM
okhay , thanks
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09-28-2009 , 12:45 PM
Spewyytime!?
normally I just fold ofcz. but this player(70/3 30hand) donked, checkraised 80% of the time and gave up on turn.
Do you ever float this against him??
after he called the turn he has flush 80% of the time, do ever bluff river??

$0.5/$1 Pot Limit Omaha Hi
PokerStars
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($110.70)
UTG+1 ($111.70)
CO ($152.05)
Hero (BTN) ($100)
SB ($114.25)
BB ($80.70)

Pre-Flop: ($1.50, 6 players) Hero is BTN J 7 K 8
3 folds, Hero raises to $3.50, 1 fold, BB calls $2.50

Flop: 9 3 2 ($7.50, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $5, BB raises to $10, Hero calls $5

Turn: 2 ($27.50, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $20, BB calls $20

River: 5 ($67.50, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $64.50,
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09-28-2009 , 12:58 PM
enemy is 50/10

sometimes I cbet/call sometimes wait for good turns.

$0.5/$1 Pot Limit Omaha Hi
PokerStars
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($37)
UTG+1 ($100)
CO ($118.05)
Hero (BTN) ($100)
SB ($27.85)
BB ($130.65)

Pre-Flop: ($1.50, 6 players) Hero is BTN 8 K 6 10
3 folds, Hero raises to $3.50, SB calls $3, 1 fold

Flop: K 9 10 ($8, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

Turn: 2 ($8, 2 players)
SB bets $5, Hero raises to $22.60, SB raises to $24.35, Hero calls $1.75

River: 3 ($56.70, 2 players)

Final Pot: $56.70
Hero shows
8 K 6 10
SB shows
10 Q 6 J

SB wins $53.90 ( won +$26.05 )

Hero lost -$27.85

normally I dont ask hands like this but I lost 3buyin in 40min and only against fishy shortstacks in hands where I raise pre,flopped top2 or better and facing the nuts all the time . so at the end I started to feel myself as the looserdonkey of the table.

btw do you steal from btn with this kind a hand?
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09-28-2009 , 02:51 PM
any1 bets the river ? villain was quite cally/floaty on flop turn but hasn paid me off so far...

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
PL Omaha $2(BB) Poker Stars
($218)
Hero ($234)

Dealt to Hero 8 8 2 7

Hero raises to $6, calls $4

FLOP ($12) 3 T 9

checks, Hero checks

TURN ($12) 3 T 9 6

bets $10, Hero raises to $40, calls $30

RIVER ($92) 3 T 9 6 K

checks, Hero checks

shows T J 6 8
(Pre 52%, Flop 72.4%, Turn 25.0%)

Hero shows 8 8 2 7
(Pre 48%, Flop 27.6%, Turn 75.0%)

Hero wins $91.50
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09-28-2009 , 02:59 PM
i'd bet for sure (maybe i'm saing that because i can see results lol), you got 3 diamonds in your hand and ther's a plently of other draws which he might be drawing for by calling turn, so i'd bet like $50...$60 probably and maybe get called by bare QJ or set/2pair because he might put you on a bluff since the river brings flush and you still betting as a turn aggressor.
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09-28-2009 , 05:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by zolih

Hero lost -$27.85

normally I dont ask hands like this but I lost 3buyin in 40min and only against fishy shortstacks in hands where I raise pre,flopped top2 or better and facing the nuts all the time . so at the end I started to feel myself as the looserdonkey of the table.

btw do you steal from btn with this kind a hand?
Well, you did not describe the aggressiveness of the player but many of these guys like to see many flops and you can get valuebets in on flop and turn when they chase a draw but as soon as they start betting/raising they have it.
I personally hate shortstacks so I easily misplay hands though...
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09-28-2009 , 09:07 PM
Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

MP: $25.00
CO: $45.80
BTN: $31.50
Hero (SB): $25.00
BB: $48.10
UTG: $16.55

MP posts a big blind ($0.25)

Pre Flop: ($0.60) Hero is SB with A 5 A 9
UTG calls $0.25, MP raises to $1, 2 folds, Hero raises to $3.50, 2 folds, MP calls $2.50

Flop: ($7.50) 8 8 8 (2 players)
Hero bets $7.15, MP calls $7.15

Turn: ($21.80) Q (2 players)
Hero bets $14.35 all in, MP calls $14.35 all in

River: ($50.50) J (2 players - 2 are all in)

Spoiler:
Final Pot: $50.50
MP shows 5s 8s 4h 3h (four of a kind, Eights)
Hero shows Ac 5c As 9d (a full house, Eights full of Aces)
MP wins $48.05
(Rake: $2.45)


I'm not entirely sure I'm happy with the turn here, when he flats I guess his range is almost entirely the 8 or maaaaybe kk/aa.
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09-28-2009 , 11:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zacharrrr
any1 bets the river ? villain was quite cally/floaty on flop turn but hasn paid me off so far...

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
PL Omaha $2(BB) Poker Stars
($218)
Hero ($234)

Dealt to Hero 8 8 2 7

Hero raises to $6, calls $4

FLOP ($12) 3 T 9

checks, Hero checks

TURN ($12) 3 T 9 6

bets $10, Hero raises to $40, calls $30

RIVER ($92) 3 T 9 6 K

checks, Hero checks

shows T J 6 8
(Pre 52%, Flop 72.4%, Turn 25.0%)

Hero shows 8 8 2 7
(Pre 48%, Flop 27.6%, Turn 75.0%)

Hero wins $91.50
i'd bet like 1/3 on the river or smtg
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09-29-2009 , 01:02 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BananaBalla
i'd bet like 1/3 on the river or smtg
that looks like asking for a c/r....

mayor_haggor, why do you bet so big in the flop ? i mean whats it accomplishing ?
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09-29-2009 , 01:21 AM
Full Tilt Poker $0.25/$0.50 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 5 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BTN: $76.00
SB: $50.00
BB: $90.50
UTG: $19.45
Hero (CO): $54.70

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is CO with 9 6 T 8
UTG calls $0.50, Hero raises to $2.25, 3 folds, UTG calls $1.75

Flop: ($5.25) J 7 J (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($5.25) 2 (2 players)
SB bets $3.50, Hero folds

Std vs shorty?
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09-29-2009 , 01:23 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zacharrrr
that looks like asking for a c/r....

mayor_haggor, why do you bet so big in the flop ? i mean whats it accomplishing ?
if he check-raises this river, he's basically polarizing his range to nut flush or air most of the time - which is why u're not getting CR very often in the first place. but obv don't bet the river if u don't know what to do vs a cr
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09-29-2009 , 02:02 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BananaBalla
if he check-raises this river, he's basically polarizing his range to nut flush or air most of the time - which is why u're not getting CR very often in the first place. but obv don't bet the river if u don't know what to do vs a cr
your point with the CR is almost too obvious to point it out. since it was quite early in the match and this was the 2cnd somewhat big pot that went to the river, i decided to check.

I mean, what does he pay me off with ? Hes def. folding bare QJ8 typa hands (on the turn), he might check a J T or 9 high flash so i dont see a hand hes paying me off with. maybe im wrong.
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09-29-2009 , 06:38 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zacharrrr
mayor_haggor, why do you bet so big in the flop ? i mean whats it accomplishing ?
Good point. I was kind of on autopilot at that point, as I was just trying to scrape enough VPP's together to buy the $200 bonus before it disappeared and it was rather late. Basically I was quite happy with the flop, so stuck more money in. I guess this is kind of a sucky flop if we get any action whatsoever though. Villain was new to me so I guess I was hoping he was sucky enough to stack off with PP's. What would you suggest? 1/2 pot? Kinda hard to get value from worse.
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09-29-2009 , 07:53 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zacharrrr
your point with the CR is almost too obvious to point it out. since it was quite early in the match and this was the 2cnd somewhat big pot that went to the river, i decided to check.

I mean, what does he pay me off with ? Hes def. folding bare QJ8 typa hands (on the turn), he might check a J T or 9 high flash so i dont see a hand hes paying me off with. maybe im wrong.
people call with all kinds of crap if you bet small because the pot odds are so good. set, two pair, straights, etc.

i wouldn't necessarily assume that he folds QJ8 type hands on the turn (since this is early in the match and we don't know if villain would b/f QJ8x on the turn since lots of ppl won't).

also, when you raise the turn, you are repping the nut straight - thus, the river is one of the worst cards in the deck for your range and you will now ck behind this river a ton. if he has any type of flush, he's betting this river a lottttt of the time.
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09-29-2009 , 10:42 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by zolih
enemy is 50/10

sometimes I cbet/call sometimes wait for good turns.

$0.5/$1 Pot Limit Omaha Hi
PokerStars
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($37)
UTG+1 ($100)
CO ($118.05)
Hero (BTN) ($100)
SB ($27.85)
BB ($130.65)

Pre-Flop: ($1.50, 6 players) Hero is BTN 8 K 6 10
3 folds, Hero raises to $3.50, SB calls $3, 1 fold

Flop: K 9 10 ($8, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

Turn: 2 ($8, 2 players)
SB bets $5, Hero raises to $22.60, SB raises to $24.35, Hero calls $1.75

River: 3 ($56.70, 2 players)

Final Pot: $56.70
Hero shows
8 K 6 10
SB shows
10 Q 6 J

SB wins $53.90 ( won +$26.05 )

Hero lost -$27.85

normally I dont ask hands like this but I lost 3buyin in 40min and only against fishy shortstacks in hands where I raise pre,flopped top2 or better and facing the nuts all the time . so at the end I started to feel myself as the looserdonkey of the table.

btw do you steal from btn with this kind a hand?
bet/fold flop imo
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09-29-2009 , 12:25 PM
Grabbed by Holdem Manager
PL Omaha $2(BB)
SB ($406)
BB ($543)
UTG ($869)
Hero ($306)
CO ($280)
BTN ($98.85)

Dealt to Hero A K 4 A

UTG calls $2, Hero raises to $9, CO calls $9, fold, fold, BB calls $7, UTG calls $7

FLOP ($37) J Q 6

BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $31, CO raises to $130, BB folds, UTG folds, Hero calls $99

TURN ($297) J Q 6 T

Hero bets $167 (AI), CO calls $141 (AI)

RIVER ($580) J Q 6 T 8


Hero wins $577


this ok? i was planning on getting the rest in on any non-pairing turn.
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09-29-2009 , 01:10 PM
have to call river huh?

Poker Stars $0.50/$1 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 2 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BTN/SB: $147.50
Hero (BB): $171.50

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BB with 8 A 9 6
BTN/SB raises to $3, Hero calls $2

Flop: ($6.00) 5 9 A (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB bets $5.70, Hero raises to $22.80, BTN/SB calls $17.10

Turn: ($51.60) 2 (2 players)
Hero bets $51.10, BTN/SB calls $51.10

River: ($153.80) K (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB bets $70.60 all in, Hero ???
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09-29-2009 , 01:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by kisada
Grabbed by Holdem Manager
PL Omaha $2(BB)
SB ($406)
BB ($543)
UTG ($869)
Hero ($306)
CO ($280)
BTN ($98.85)

Dealt to Hero A K 4 A

UTG calls $2, Hero raises to $9, CO calls $9, fold, fold, BB calls $7, UTG calls $7

FLOP ($37) J Q 6

BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $31, CO raises to $130, BB folds, UTG folds, Hero calls $99

TURN ($297) J Q 6 T

Hero bets $167 (AI), CO calls $141 (AI)

RIVER ($580) J Q 6 T 8


Hero wins $577


this ok? i was planning on getting the rest in on any non-pairing turn.
think its to loose 4way
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