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09-20-2009 , 04:17 PM
I open it if folded to but hate raising it after a limper
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09-20-2009 , 04:19 PM
Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
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Hero (UTG): $36.50
MP: $4.05
CO: $23.05
BTN: $34.55
SB: $13.15
BB: $25.00

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is UTG with T T J K
Hero raises to $0.75, MP calls $0.75, 1 fold, BTN raises to $3.35, 1 fold, BB calls $3.10, Hero calls $2.60, 1 fold

Flop: ($10.90) K 4 J (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $6.50, BTN calls $6.50, BB raises to $21.65 all in, Hero ?

I guess fold pre and as played check flop?

I was thinking so much about the pfr that i forgot about that guy...
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09-20-2009 , 04:33 PM
^Snap get it in.
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09-20-2009 , 05:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SbteH
Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
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Hero (UTG): $36.50
MP: $4.05
CO: $23.05
BTN: $34.55
SB: $13.15
BB: $25.00

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is UTG with T T J K
Hero raises to $0.75, MP calls $0.75, 1 fold, BTN raises to $3.35, 1 fold, BB calls $3.10, Hero calls $2.60, 1 fold

Flop: ($10.90) K 4 J (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $6.50, BTN calls $6.50, BB raises to $21.65 all in, Hero ?

I guess fold pre and as played check flop?

I was thinking so much about the pfr that i forgot about that guy...
sigh get it in, what else can you do, the pot is huge
people do like cold calling KK at that level though, lol

lead for >9, no reason to bet that small, everyone knows you're not going anywhere
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09-21-2009 , 04:59 AM
Poker Stars $50.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
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SB: $46.25
Hero (BB): $112.30
UTG: $29.70
MP: $72.80
CO: $49.70
BTN: $95.10

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BB with J T K Q
UTG calls $0.50, 2 folds, BTN raises to $2.25, SB calls $2, Hero raises to $9.50, 1 fold, BTN raises to $31.25, SB raises to $46.25, Hero raises to $112.30, BTN calls $63.85 all in
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09-21-2009 , 05:08 AM
can he have something else than aces here? if no you're a dog (not a big one but you are one)
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09-21-2009 , 06:10 AM
Out of interest why did you want to get it all in pre? Your hand plays well post flop (I'm not a fan of the variance that occurs when flipping 200bb deep, if I win great, if I lose Villain picks up huge pot and leaves me tilting).

Last edited by shoobri; 09-21-2009 at 06:11 AM. Reason: .
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09-21-2009 , 09:43 AM
Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
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Hero (SB): $24.75
BB: $27.45
UTG: $16.50
MP: $49.45
CO: $42.05
BTN: $40.05

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is SB with K K J A
UTG calls $0.25, 2 folds, BTN raises to $0.75, Hero calls $0.65, 1 fold, UTG calls $0.50

Flop: ($2.50) 3 T 8 (3 players)
Hero bets $2.25, UTG calls $2.25, BTN calls $2.25

Turn: ($9.25) 4 (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, BTN checks

River: ($9.25) 4 (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, BTN bets $5, Hero calls 5 ok here?

don't like my flop c-bet in hindsight but lets leave that for now, more interested in river action
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09-21-2009 , 12:32 PM
I make calls like that all the time but for some reason i dont like this one, i dont think he fires that river with Q's, a set would have played the hand a lot differently, i think two pair would have fired the turn, he prolly has a 4 or maybe Aces(?), dunno what u guys think but i think theres a good chance he has aces
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09-21-2009 , 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by SbteH
I make calls like that all the time but for some reason i dont like this one, i dont think he fires that river with Q's, a set would have played the hand a lot differently, i think two pair would have fired the turn, he prolly has a 4 or maybe Aces(?), dunno what u guys think but i think theres a good chance he has aces
Ok thanks. I couldn't come up with any hand except for AA** and a strange 4that would beat me here and at the same time, I guess I would've bet this being the BTN as well. Still doubting my decision to call
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09-21-2009 , 04:52 PM
IPoker Network $100.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
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MP: $94.00
CO: $222.85
Hero (BTN): $142.40
SB: $273.92
BB: $78.00
UTG: $110.40

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BTN with T J 8 7
2 folds, CO calls $1, Hero raises to $4.50, 1 fold, BB calls $3.50, CO calls $3.50

Flop: ($14.00) K 3 A (3 players)
BB checks, CO checks

Hero c-bets or takes a freecard?
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09-21-2009 , 05:30 PM
I'd c-bet
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09-21-2009 , 07:24 PM
errrrr that's tough. you have to think of what calls c-betting here....
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09-21-2009 , 08:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by FinnAndrews
Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
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Hero (SB): $24.75
BB: $27.45
UTG: $16.50
MP: $49.45
CO: $42.05
BTN: $40.05

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is SB with K K J A
UTG calls $0.25, 2 folds, BTN raises to $0.75, Hero calls $0.65, 1 fold, UTG calls $0.50

Flop: ($2.50) 3 T 8 (3 players)
Hero bets $2.25, UTG calls $2.25, BTN calls $2.25

Turn: ($9.25) 4 (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, BTN checks

River: ($9.25) 4 (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, BTN bets $5, Hero calls 5 ok here?

don't like my flop c-bet in hindsight but lets leave that for now, more interested in river action
i would call
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09-21-2009 , 08:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ducks08
errrrr that's tough. you have to think of what calls c-betting here....
hands that we dont want calling, i would think....however, i would think we get enough folds to be more than profitable, id bet
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09-21-2009 , 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by s1`
Poker Stars $50.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
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SB: $46.25
Hero (BB): $112.30
UTG: $29.70
MP: $72.80
CO: $49.70
BTN: $95.10

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BB with J T K Q
UTG calls $0.50, 2 folds, BTN raises to $2.25, SB calls $2, Hero raises to $9.50, 1 fold, BTN raises to $31.25, SB raises to $46.25, Hero raises to $112.30, BTN calls $63.85 all in
no need to jam over the SB, imo...looks for sure that btn has aa, so just call, then basically call any flop that doesnt look something like a22, those flops where u have enough equity vs. AAxx....and i dont mind your original 3 bet, fwiw
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09-22-2009 , 04:25 AM
Spew or standard, I flop the made straight with a re draw

Villain is playing TAG ish 19/11/12 with 0% 3-bet.

I think top set is definitely in his range.


Full Tilt Poker $0.25/$0.50 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
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CO: $105.40
BTN: $33.20
SB: $143.70
BB: $50.85
Hero (UTG): $63.05
MP: $116.15

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is UTG with Q T 8 9
Hero raises to $1.50, 2 folds, BTN raises to $2.50, 1 fold, BB calls $2, Hero calls $1

Flop: ($7.75) 9 6 J (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $5, BTN folds, BB raises to $17, Hero raises to $58.75, BB calls $31.35 all in
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09-22-2009 , 04:36 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by shoobri
Spew or standard, I flop the made straight with a re draw

Villain is playing TAG ish 19/11/12 with 0% 3-bet.

I think top set is definitely in his range.


Full Tilt Poker $0.25/$0.50 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

CO: $105.40
BTN: $33.20
SB: $143.70
BB: $50.85
Hero (UTG): $63.05
MP: $116.15

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is UTG with Q T 8 9
Hero raises to $1.50, 2 folds, BTN raises to $2.50, 1 fold, BB calls $2, Hero calls $1

Flop: ($7.75) 9 6 J (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $5, BTN folds, BB raises to $17, Hero raises to $58.75, BB calls $31.35 all in
[ ] u flopped the made straight
[x] u flopped a wrap

its a gamble if u think u r facing top set here like 90% but it's fairly standart to get it in. i dont really see a reason for leading the flop tho. i'd tend to c/c the flop
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09-22-2009 , 04:46 AM
Whoops missed that, really need to wake up before I start playing and posting...
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09-22-2009 , 12:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mdb77
no need to jam over the SB, imo...looks for sure that btn has aa, so just call, then basically call any flop that doesnt look something like a22, those flops where u have enough equity vs. AAxx....and i dont mind your original 3 bet, fwiw
Initial 3-bet is absolutely mandatory, especially with an in position cold-caller.

If you have a full PSB left then flatting the 4-bet is definitely the correct play. With a little less than 1/2 pot left behind I'd prefer to just get it in now because we probably can't correctly identify the flops we can fold getting better than 3 to 1 on our money (any BDFD + overs might be enough to correctly call etc.).
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09-22-2009 , 12:37 PM
I find it impossible to play against this type of Villain 92/15/1 3.6% 3-bet (over 158 hands). So this time I decide to agressively play 9's with no redraw from the button. My feeling is that if Villain has top set he will check raise the flop. I have no idea why there is a min check raise on a blank turn I just use as an opportunity to get more money in the middle of the table.
Is this style of play standard or just tilting off chips?


Full Tilt Poker $50.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 5 players
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Hero (BTN): $109.40
SB: $49.75
BB: $49.50
UTG: $51.40
CO: $230.90

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BTN with J 9 9 5
1 fold, CO calls $0.50, Hero raises to $2, 2 folds, CO calls $1.50

Flop: ($4.75) 4 9 Q (2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $3.50, CO calls $3.50

Turn: ($11.75) 6 (2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $10.00, CO raises to $27, Hero raises to $92.75, CO calls $65.75

River: ($197.25) A (2 players)
CO bets $0.50, Hero raises to $11.15, CO calls $10.65
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09-22-2009 , 01:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by shoobri
I find it impossible to play against this type of Villain 92/15/1 3.6% 3-bet (over 158 hands). So this time I decide to agressively play 9's with no redraw from the button. My feeling is that if Villain has top set he will check raise the flop. I have no idea why there is a min check raise on a blank turn I just use as an opportunity to get more money in the middle of the table.
Is this style of play standard or just tilting off chips?


Full Tilt Poker $50.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 5 players
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Hero (BTN): $109.40
SB: $49.75
BB: $49.50
UTG: $51.40
CO: $230.90

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BTN with J 9 9 5
1 fold, CO calls $0.50, Hero raises to $2, 2 folds, CO calls $1.50

Flop: ($4.75) 4 9 Q (2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $3.50, CO calls $3.50

Turn: ($11.75) 6 (2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $10.00, CO raises to $27, Hero raises to $92.75, CO calls $65.75

River: ($197.25) A (2 players)
CO bets $0.50, Hero raises to $11.15, CO calls $10.65
If that 1 is his aggression factor, I go into call-down versus that turn raise. I can see a set waiting for a clean turn card to kr here because you are almost always two-barrelling a safe card on a board like this (if you are aggro anyway), and he will probably be happy to only get a maximum of two bets in on three streets if you check through on a draw-enhancing turn card.

I expect to see ****ty queens here most of the time, like QQ65ss or QQJ2r, and he played it just like he was hoping to overset someone on a board like this. If he is more aggro post-flop, obv the turn play is fine as it is pure value from his made hands like top-two and better (he has no monster draws on this board because he would probably raise a ds rundown from the CO).
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09-22-2009 , 02:08 PM
is this spew? villian just lost couple of big pots, started 3betting much more.

Poker Stars $0.50/$1 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 2 players
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BB: $123.85
Hero (BTN/SB): $237.10

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BTN/SB with 5 T J 2
Hero raises to $3, BB raises to $9, Hero calls $6

Flop: ($18.00) T Q 5 (2 players)
BB bets $17.50, Hero raises to $70, BB raises to $114.85 all in, Hero calls $44.85
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09-22-2009 , 02:09 PM
I'd probably minraise or limp that pf
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09-22-2009 , 05:13 PM
Personally I don't like it, I've fallen into this trap several times where villain will shove with TP and hit a runner on either turn or river.
I don't think that I'm ever ahead with bottom 2 although in this hand the 2 live flush draws add outs. My preference would be to min raise pre and flat the flop and see a turn before committing, maybe I'm too nittish.


board: TdQh5c
Hand Pot equity Wins Ties
5d2dTcJc 43.73% 260,076 4,625
Q*** 56.27% 335,299 4,625
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