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11-26-2010 , 12:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sumfora
Pre is obv fine. On the flop you have no nutdraws so I think you're drawing very slim especially to a checkraise. Reads/stats would def help but readless I think I would fold to the c/r here or call and re-evaluate depending on turncard+action. Def not stacking off here.
didnt feel right getting it in but like omg OESD and FD looks so pretty
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11-26-2010 , 01:54 PM
competent player plays 35/22 over 200hand

weakness: call ip light (even in multiway with trouble hands)
strongness: turning hands into bluff and seems aggro AQ 37%

not much history between us

I post this and the result because this happens all the time.
i try to give them a range I beat madehand+turned draw + I level myself into thinking that my flop chekc showed weakness so he attacikng light..etc

but they seems to have the AAxx all the time.

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PL Omaha $0.50(BB) Full Tilt
SB ($52.30)
BB ($104)
UTG ($27.70)
Hero ($50)
BTN ($53)

Dealt to Hero T 2 Q Q

fold, Hero raises to $1.50, fold, SB calls $1.25, fold

FLOP ($3.50) A 9 6

SB checks, Hero checks

TURN ($3.50) A 9 6 Q

SB checks, Hero bets $3, SB raises to $12.50, Hero raises to $41, SB raises to $50.80 (AI), Hero calls $7.50 (AI)

RIVER ($100) A 9 6 Q 7

SB shows A A 3 T
(Pre 74%, Flop 96.0%, Turn 97.5%)

Hero shows T 2 Q Q
(Pre 26%, Flop 4.0%, Turn 2.5%)

SB wins $97.50


this happened 4times this week.. start to lose confidence in this spot... dunno how standard to go broke..
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11-26-2010 , 11:44 PM
No reads, but he's porbably a reg

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PL Omaha $2(BB) Poker Stars
SB ($148)
BB ($200)
CO ($1,673)
Hero ($326)

Dealt to Hero A A 7 T

CO raises to $7, Hero raises to $24, fold, fold, CO calls $17

FLOP ($51) A 4 J

CO checks, Hero bets $38, CO calls $38

TURN ($127) A 4 J T

CO checks, Hero bets $88, CO calls $88

RIVER ($303) A 4 J T Q

CO bets $238, Hero folds

CO wins $301

Last edited by Gorilla Boy; 11-27-2010 at 12:13 AM.
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11-27-2010 , 12:12 AM
No reads

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PL Omaha $2(BB) Poker Stars
SB ($200)
Hero ($200)
UTG ($422)
UTG+1 ($265)
CO ($349)
BTN ($229)

Dealt to Hero J Q 8 T

fold, UTG+1 raises to $6, fold, BTN calls $6, SB calls $5, Hero raises to $30, UTG+1 raises to $102, fold, fold, Hero calls $72

FLOP ($216) 9 A Q

Hero bets $98 (AI), UTG+1 calls $98

TURN ($412) 9 A Q K

RIVER ($412) 9 A Q K 6

Hero shows J Q 8 T
(Pre 39%, Flop 41.5%, Turn 73.8%)

UTG+1 shows J A 2 A
(Pre 61%, Flop 58.5%, Turn 26.2%)

Hero wins $409
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11-27-2010 , 12:37 AM
played 16 hands with villain, he's opened a few of them, cbet all of them, and has won every time he went to showdown


Poker Stars $50.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 5 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter By DeucesCracked Poker Videos

CO: $53.50
Hero (BTN): $50.00
SB: $50.00
BB: $50.00
UTG: $91.15

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BTN with A Q Q 3
UTG raises to $1, 1 fold, Hero calls $1, 2 folds

Flop: ($2.75) A T 3 (2 players)
UTG bets $2.00, Hero calls $2

Turn: ($6.75) 5 (2 players)
UTG bets $3.00, Hero calls $3

River: ($12.75) 5 (2 players)
UTG bets $5.00, Hero folds

Final Pot: $12.75
UTG wins $12.15
(Rake: $0.60)
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11-27-2010 , 11:13 AM
Getting 3.5-1 I would probably call.
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11-27-2010 , 11:37 AM
both of them are 60/10 ish w/ low AQ 20%

missed turn cbet is a leak? river standard fold?

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PL Omaha $0.50(BB) Replayer
SB ($102)
Hero ($50)
UTG ($54)
UTG+1 ($45.56)
CO ($37)
BTN ($119)

Dealt to Hero K 6 7 4

fold, UTG+1 calls $0.50, CO calls $0.50, BTN calls $0.50, SB calls $0.25, Hero checks

FLOP ($2.50) K K 4

SB checks, Hero bets $2, UTG+1 calls $2, CO calls $2, BTN folds, SB folds

TURN ($8.50) K K 4 A

Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, CO checks

RIVER ($8.50) K K 4 A 8

Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, CO bets $8.50, Hero folds, UTG+1 folds

CO wins $8.08
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11-27-2010 , 09:56 PM
new to PLO help

Poker Stars $0.05/$0.10 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 5 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter By DeucesCracked Poker Videos

CO: $10.00
Hero (BTN): $13.31
SB: $9.76
BB: $16.83
UTG: $4.13

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BTN with J 8 J Q
UTG raises to $0.30, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.30, 2 folds

Flop: ($0.75) 7 4 4 (2 players)
UTG bets $0.40, Hero raises to $1.92, UTG raises to $3.70, Hero raises to $5.48, UTG calls $0.13 all in

Turn: ($8.41) 9 (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($8.41) 9 (2 players - 1 is all in)
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11-27-2010 , 10:55 PM
for that to be profitable i need him to fold some % of time right
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11-28-2010 , 02:08 AM
Standard I assume?

Full Tilt Poker $0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter By DeucesCracked Poker Videos

MP: $27.08
CO: $26.26
BTN: $50.04
Hero (SB): $25.10
BB: $57.16
UTG: $26.61

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is SB with Q 6 A A
UTG raises to $0.85, 2 folds, BTN raises to $2.75, Hero raises to $9.35, 2 folds, BTN calls $6.60

Flop: ($19.80) 7 8 T (2 players)
Hero bets $15.75 all in, BTN calls $15.75

Turn: ($51.30) 3 (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($51.30) 2 (2 players - 1 is all in)
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11-28-2010 , 02:23 AM
unfortunately
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11-28-2010 , 11:12 AM
guy plays 80/65 over big sample thought he puts it in with bare Kx
whats good bet sizing for turn
Poker Stars $0.05/$0.10 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter By DeucesCracked Poker Videos

UTG: $10.00
MP: $46.19
CO: $10.00
Hero (BTN): $12.03
SB: $10.00
BB: $3.70

Pre Flop: ($0.20) Hero is BTN with J 5 6 A
1 fold, MP raises to $0.20, CO calls $0.15, Hero calls $0.20, 1 fold, BB calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.85) K 9 7 (4 players)
BB checks, MP bets $0.86, CO calls $0.86, Hero raises to $4.30, BB folds, MP calls $3.44, CO folds

Turn: ($10.31) 4 (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $3.90, MP calls $3.90

River: ($18.11) Q (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $3.63 all in, MP calls $3.63
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11-28-2010 , 10:38 PM
villain is lag and have a read he might play overpairs this way. standard?


Full Tilt Poker $50.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 5 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter By DeucesCracked Poker Videos

CO: $134.45
BTN: $164.40
Hero (SB): $107.15
BB: $43.50
UTG: $22.20

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is SB with 9 Q 7 T
1 fold, CO raises to $2.25, 1 fold, Hero raises to $7.75, 1 fold, CO calls $5.50

Flop: ($16.00) 3 2 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $12.00, CO raises to $52.50, Hero raises to $99.30
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11-28-2010 , 11:28 PM
vs. an 80/20. Wtf... do I really average 33%+ equity on this flop?

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PL Omaha $1(BB) Pacific
SB ($235)
Hero ($100)
UTG ($91.81)
UTG+1 ($100)
CO ($65.55)
BTN ($129)

Dealt to Hero 6 A A 4

UTG calls $1, fold, CO raises to $4.50, BTN calls $4.50, fold, Hero raises to $19.50, fold, CO calls $15, fold

FLOP ($45) T K J

Hero has $46 left
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11-28-2010 , 11:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by this_passing
villain is lag and have a read he might play overpairs this way. standard?


Full Tilt Poker $50.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 5 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter By DeucesCracked Poker Videos

CO: $134.45
BTN: $164.40
Hero (SB): $107.15
BB: $43.50
UTG: $22.20

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is SB with 9 Q 7 T
1 fold, CO raises to $2.25, 1 fold, Hero raises to $7.75, 1 fold, CO calls $5.50

Flop: ($16.00) 3 2 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $12.00, CO raises to $52.50, Hero raises to $99.30
hey im new to PLO but isnt this a bet/fold?

seems like we still have alot behind after our cbet and were not ahead ever right?
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11-29-2010 , 01:31 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by raze
vs. an 80/20. Wtf... do I really average 33%+ equity on this flop?

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
PL Omaha $1(BB) Pacific
SB ($235)
Hero ($100)
UTG ($91.81)
UTG+1 ($100)
CO ($65.55)
BTN ($129)

Dealt to Hero 6 A A 4

UTG calls $1, fold, CO raises to $4.50, BTN calls $4.50, fold, Hero raises to $19.50, fold, CO calls $15, fold

FLOP ($45) T K J

Hero has $46 left
yes, and fold equity sometimes too if he has 7766 or a low rundown w/o hearts
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11-29-2010 , 11:14 AM
Played some Live 1/2 ($300 max BI) FR PLO over the holidays...

I have ~$240 (120bb). Other two guys have me covered by ~10-20bb.

I don't remember the PF action exactly, but it went something like MP raise to $6, I call CO with Q567, BTN calls. Blinds fold.

Guy behind me is LAGGY and the table as a whole is better than I'd expect from a Live 1/2 game (I don't have much to compare to, however). Suffice it to say that I'm considering getting up as I don't know how much edge I have if any.

Flop is Q68

PFR c-bets $10, I raise to $45, BTN pots, PFR calls. Hero gets it in.
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11-29-2010 , 07:18 PM
bet or check?

Full Tilt Poker $100.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter By DeucesCracked Poker Videos

CO: $230.50
BTN: $219.25
SB: $198.80
Hero (BB): $100.00
UTG: $219.75
MP: $110.10

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BB with K 7 7 A
4 folds, SB raises to $4.20, Hero calls $3.20

Flop: ($8.40) 4 A 9 (2 players)
SB bets $7.00, Hero calls $7

Turn: ($22.40) 2 (2 players)
SB checks
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11-29-2010 , 07:34 PM
CO is okay but no reads on him. other player is splashing. at what point SPR-wise are we stacking?

Full Tilt Poker $50.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter By DeucesCracked Poker Videos

BB: $223.35
UTG: $125.40
MP: $75.30
CO: $238.60
Hero (BTN): $96.25
SB: $93.00

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BTN with Q A A K
UTG calls $0.50, 1 fold, CO raises to $2.85, Hero raises to $10.40, 2 folds, UTG calls $9.90, CO calls $7.55

Flop: ($31.95) T T J (3 players)
UTG checks, CO bets $25.00
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11-29-2010 , 10:32 PM
This_Passing, Hand 1 I would bet simply because i really don't love inducing on the river unless I am calling a ton of rivers. We can be called by worse Axxx that isn't aces up yet, plus it makes you hard to play and simply makes the hand pretty damn easy to play, if he calls we can check most rivers and insta fold if he somehow c/rs.

Hand 2-I would shove at this depth, deep it gets a lot trickier, probably call and look to get to showdown and be folding a ton of turns even if it completes a straight. Overall its a ugly spot but his range shouldn't be that nutted given you should be c-betting here a ton and I don't think his leading range is that strong if at all. Something probably KQ9 that would love aces to fold without having to c/r. We can definitely be called by worse and against Jxxx I would say were probably like 25-30 equity on average, so an easy shove and probably swear loudly if you run into the top of his range where he should rarely have it.
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11-29-2010 , 10:54 PM
should i fold flop?


Poker Stars $0.05/$0.10 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter By DeucesCracked Poker Videos

SB: $12.26
Hero (BB): $11.64
UTG: $19.66
MP: $18.79
CO: $19.67
BTN: $11.75

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BB with K A A 3
4 folds, SB calls $0.05, Hero raises to $0.30, SB calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.60) 4 Q 6 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.57, SB raises to $2.28, Hero calls $1.71

Turn: ($5.16) J (2 players)
SB bets $4.91, Hero calls $4.91

River: ($14.98) T (2 players)
SB bets $4.77 all in, Hero calls $4.15 all in
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11-29-2010 , 11:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jacktensuited13
This_Passing, Hand 1 I would bet simply because i really don't love inducing on the river unless I am calling a ton of rivers. We can be called by worse Axxx that isn't aces up yet, plus it makes you hard to play and simply makes the hand pretty damn easy to play, if he calls we can check most rivers and insta fold if he somehow c/rs.

Hand 2-I would shove at this depth, deep it gets a lot trickier, probably call and look to get to showdown and be folding a ton of turns even if it completes a straight. Overall its a ugly spot but his range shouldn't be that nutted given you should be c-betting here a ton and I don't think his leading range is that strong if at all. Something probably KQ9 that would love aces to fold without having to c/r. We can definitely be called by worse and against Jxxx I would say were probably like 25-30 equity on average, so an easy shove and probably swear loudly if you run into the top of his range where he should rarely have it.
just don't like the other player being in the hand. i think it's a shove at 100bb but still not sure this deep
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11-30-2010 , 08:14 AM
he plays 22/8 only 40hand

I guess turn is ok. what about river? should I give up once a tight player called a duplicated turn? (vs a total unknown or afish i would bet the river too to force out the draws

His call down is standard in general?
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PL Omaha $0.50(BB) Replayer
SB ($53.65)
BB ($79.05)
UTG ($74.45)
UTG+1 ($22.70)
CO ($50.75)
Hero ($103)

Dealt to Hero 2 5 A J

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $1.75, SB calls $1.50, fold

FLOP ($4) Q T 4

SB checks, Hero bets $3.25, SB calls $3.25

TURN ($10.50) Q T 4 4

SB checks, Hero bets $7.25, SB calls $7.25

RIVER ($25) Q T 4 4 5

SB checks, Hero bets $20, SB calls $20

Hero shows 2 5 A J
(Pre 30%, Flop 26.0%, Turn 27.5%)

SB shows 5 7 A A
(Pre 70%, Flop 74.0%, Turn 72.5%)

SB wins $62

Last edited by Tschinga-Tschanga; 11-30-2010 at 08:36 AM.
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11-30-2010 , 04:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Leroy2DaBeroy
Played some Live 1/2 ($300 max BI) FR PLO over the holidays...

I have ~$240 (120bb). Other two guys have me covered by ~10-20bb.

I don't remember the PF action exactly, but it went something like MP raise to $6, I call CO with Q567, BTN calls. Blinds fold.

Guy behind me is LAGGY and the table as a whole is better than I'd expect from a Live 1/2 game (I don't have much to compare to, however). Suffice it to say that I'm considering getting up as I don't know how much edge I have if any.

Flop is Q68

PFR c-bets $10, I raise to $45, BTN pots, PFR calls. Hero gets it in.
[X] Two pair
[X] OESD
[X] FD/blockers
[X] Multi-way with a LAG

Shove and say "4 One time dealer"
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11-30-2010 , 04:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Duff86
Shove and say "4 One time dealer"
Twas one of those new-fangled live, but on a machine dealies. Talking to machines is for crazy people.
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