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Old 09-11-2009, 05:58 PM   #251
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

villian is a reg as far as i know, c-bets all the time (small sample though) $10 or $12 in 3bet pots. is this ok shove flop here this deep in 3bet pot with 2 bdfds and middle pair.

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Hero (BTN/SB): $157.25
BB: $72.90

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BTN/SB with 4 8 6 K
Hero raises to $3, BB raises to $9, Hero calls $6

Flop: ($18.00) 2 4 9 (2 players)
BB bets $10, Hero raises to $47.50?
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Old 09-11-2009, 05:59 PM   #252
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

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villain unknown


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MP: $25.90
Hero (CO): $30.50
BTN: $33.40
SB: $32.50
BB: $20.80
UTG: $29.40

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is CO with K 9 K 3
UTG raises to $0.85, MP calls $0.85, Hero calls $0.85, 2 folds, BB calls $0.60

Flop: ($3.50) 2 2 2 (4 players)
BB checks, UTG bets $2.75, MP folds, Hero calls $2.75, BB folds

Turn: ($9.00) 9 (2 players)
UTG bets $8.60, Hero folds

Final Pot: $9.00
UTG wins $8.60
(Rake: $0.40)
Good fold, against any random most of the time the kings are just not good in this spot
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Old 09-11-2009, 06:07 PM   #253
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

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Board:
UTG: $50
CO: $50
Button: $25.07
SB: $76.80
BB: $22.80
UTG+1: $39.13

Dealt to BB K 5 6 7

Pre-flop:
UTG+1 calls $.25, UTG checks, CO checks, Button raises to $1.60, SB calls $1.50, BB....

If this was an Ad I am definetly 3betting, but with the Kd OOP? Thoughts?

new to table, no real reads, button just 3bet me the hand before with 89TJr,

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Without much information folding here seems like the right play. We aren't going to see too many flops in a multiway pot opp that makes us happy. If he turns out to be the 3b'ing spazz just wait to pick up a quality hand and let him hang himself.
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Old 09-11-2009, 06:17 PM   #254
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

ok?

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Hero (BB): $166.95
BTN/SB: $90.95

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BB with T 4 K A
BTN/SB raises to $2, Hero raises to $6, BTN/SB calls $4

Flop: ($12.00) 7 J Q (2 players)
Hero bets $8, BTN/SB raises to $35.50, Hero raises to $118, BTN/SB calls $49.45 all in

Turn: ($181.90) T (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($181.90) 2 (2 players - 1 is all in)
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Old 09-11-2009, 07:16 PM   #255
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

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ok?

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Hero (BB): $166.95
BTN/SB: $90.95

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BB with T 4 K A
BTN/SB raises to $2, Hero raises to $6, BTN/SB calls $4

Flop: ($12.00) 7 J Q (2 players)
Hero bets $8, BTN/SB raises to $35.50, Hero raises to $118, BTN/SB calls $49.45 all in

Turn: ($181.90) T (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($181.90) 2 (2 players - 1 is all in)
Depends. What is your read here? If he has any flush draw with a pair, you're crushed. I lean towards fold.
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Old 09-11-2009, 08:07 PM   #256
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

Villain was 13/6 over 20 hands

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CO: $90.40
Hero (BTN): $50.00
SB: $50.15
BB: $36.70
UTG: $58.60
MP: $84.65

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BTN with J A A Q
1 fold, MP raises to $1.75, 1 fold, Hero raises to $6, 2 folds, MP calls $4.25

Flop: ($12.75) 4 T 6 (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $9.50, MP calls $9.50

Turn: ($31.75) 3 (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $31.75, MP raises to $63.50, Hero calls $2.75 all in

River: ($100.75) Q (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $100.75
Hero shows J A A Q (a pair of Aces)
MP shows 2 2 5 5 (a straight, Six high)
MP wins $97.75
(Rake: $3.00)




villain was 35/5 over 40 hands, he pretty much has one of those sets
standard cbet fold against this type, bet/3bet against aggro player (although it's still 4way)

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SB: $38.10
BB: $72.80
UTG: $23.50
Hero (MP): $50.00
CO: $40.75
BTN: $47.00

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is MP with 2 8 K K
UTG calls $0.50, Hero raises to $2.25, 1 fold, BTN calls $2.25, 1 fold, BB calls $1.75, UTG calls $1.75

Flop: ($9.25) 5 7 J (4 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $7, BTN raises to $30.25, BB folds, UTG folds, Hero requests TIME, Hero folds

Final Pot: $23.25
BTN wins $22.10
(Rake: $1.15)
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Old 09-12-2009, 12:43 AM   #257
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

I really like how you played both of those hands
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Old 09-12-2009, 03:39 AM   #258
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

I think those hands are fine, although depending on the players behind me I would be reluctant to raise pre with the Kings in hand #2
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Old 09-12-2009, 12:39 PM   #259
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

i wasn't 3betting a lot, so villian must be putting me exactly on a kind of hand i have AA, good KK, or brodway cards, i feel like i'm going to be floated a lots on this board if i c-bet as my 3betting range are premium hands most of the time. is it ok just check fold here? to weak? or bet/fold something like $12...$14 is better that check/fold?

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Board:
HERO (CO): $301.05
HappyMeals (Button): $94.10

Dealt to HERO 5 8 A A

Pre-flop:
HappyMeals raises to $3, HERO raises to $9, HappyMeals calls $6

Flop: ($19.50) 4 7 3 (2 Players)
HERO checks, HappyMeals bets $17.50, (1 folds), HappyMeals returns $17.50

Results:
HappyMeals wins $17.50
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Old 09-12-2009, 12:47 PM   #260
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

^ I am okay with the fold. Not because I believe I am beat here, but just because I like saving myself the headache.
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Old 09-12-2009, 01:16 PM   #261
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

I am cbetting the flop there 100% of the time, I cant even see a hand that he has that got you beat.
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Old 09-12-2009, 01:20 PM   #262
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

im bet/calling that flop with the double gutter and bdnfd, really dont like check folding, seems really weak
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Old 09-12-2009, 01:25 PM   #263
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woaaaa. didnt even see the double gutter. I retract my statement. bet that flop!
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Old 09-12-2009, 01:46 PM   #264
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wot?? omfg i had double gutter, im such a ******.
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Old 09-14-2009, 03:45 PM   #265
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

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SB ($51.75)
BB ($153)
UTG ($51.85)
Hero ($52.55)
CO ($30.55)
BTN ($57.85)

Dealt to Hero 3 A Q T

fold, Hero raises to $1.75, CO calls $1.75, BTN calls $1.75, fold, BB calls $1.25

FLOP ($7.25) Q J K

BB checks, Hero bets $4.50, CO folds, BTN calls $4.50, BB calls $4.50

TURN ($20.75) Q J K K

BB checks, Hero checks, BTN checks

RIVER ($20.75) Q J K K 4

BB bets $15, Hero folds, BTN folds

BB wins $19.75

Please leave the preflop raise aside (thought I was in the CO and it just barely meets my opening standards from that position).

Standard fold on the river here? Villain I have marked as 43/11 and a little on a loose/passive side, but not terrible and not out of line.
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Old 09-14-2009, 04:28 PM   #266
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

fold this hand pf from mp...

on a serious note though, I dont see any reason to bet so small on the flop. Turn and river play seem standard vs. loose passive...
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Old 09-14-2009, 07:20 PM   #267
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fold this hand pf from mp...

on a serious note though, I dont see any reason to bet so small on the flop. Turn and river play seem standard vs. loose passive...
I thought about this and I see what you're saying, but I'm okay with it in retrospect. This board is wicked scary, and my value bet even though its with the nuts is hard pressed to get called by much worse, outside of a set. Maybe with a smaller bet something like JT foolishly calls.

But the other reason is that s I don't have any backdoors to go with my hand, I was planning on waiting for a safe turn card before really pressing it. I'm not thrilled to get raised here because I think that means I'm drawing to chop.
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Old 09-14-2009, 09:53 PM   #268
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

villian is a fish, seems like has not much clue about the game, passive. bet turn? river fold?

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Hero (BTN/SB): $116.90
BB: $73.15

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BTN/SB with 2 3 3 A
Hero raises to $3, BB calls $2

Flop: ($6.00) J Q 3 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $4, BB calls $4

Turn: ($14.00) J (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $9, BB calls $9

River: ($32.00) 6 (2 players)
BB bets $31.50, Hero ???
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Old 09-14-2009, 11:12 PM   #269
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villian is a fish, seems like has not much clue about the game, passive. bet turn? river fold?

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Hero (BTN/SB): $116.90
BB: $73.15

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BTN/SB with 2 3 3 A
Hero raises to $3, BB calls $2

Flop: ($6.00) J Q 3 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $4, BB calls $4

Turn: ($14.00) J (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $9, BB calls $9

River: ($32.00) 6 (2 players)
BB bets $31.50, Hero ???
100% read dependant as there isn't really a valid hand that would ever take this line. I'm guessing he has Jx to make a FH most of the time though. Obv if he auto-bluffs his missed draws you want to snap this off and be happy.
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Old 09-14-2009, 11:37 PM   #270
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thx jd.
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Old 09-15-2009, 12:02 AM   #271
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villian is a fish, seems like has not much clue about the game, passive. bet turn? river fold?

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Hero (BTN/SB): $116.90
BB: $73.15

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BTN/SB with 2 3 3 A
Hero raises to $3, BB calls $2

Flop: ($6.00) J Q 3 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $4, BB calls $4

Turn: ($14.00) J (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $9, BB calls $9

River: ($32.00) 6 (2 players)
BB bets $31.50, Hero ???
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100% read dependant as there isn't really a valid hand that would ever take this line. I'm guessing he has Jx to make a FH most of the time though. Obv if he auto-bluffs his missed draws you want to snap this off and be happy.

LP fish plays QJ and QQ like this surprisingly often imo. If villain is somewhat donkish/aggro I am cool with calling. If he is a pure LP fish its burning money
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Old 09-15-2009, 12:04 AM   #272
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If he is a pure LP fish
thats exactly this villian.
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Old 09-15-2009, 12:14 PM   #273
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villian is a fish, lims button like 80%, other time minraises button. he probably thinks i'm triyng to bluff him everu hand, calls down with top pair often, drawing to the flush no matter what etc. he insta potted the river. what now?

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BB: $92.20
Hero (BTN/SB): $214.80

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BTN/SB with Q J J 8
Hero raises to $3, BB calls $2

Flop: ($6.00) J K 4 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $4, BB calls $4

Turn: ($14.00) 4 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $12, BB calls $12

River: ($38.00) 4 (2 players)
BB bets $37.50, Hero ?
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Old 09-15-2009, 12:17 PM   #274
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villian is adequate. haven't seen him doing anything crazy. i played this hand awful? fold turn?

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Hero (BTN/SB): $164.10
BB: $97.40

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BTN/SB with 8 7 J Q
Hero raises to $3, BB calls $2

Flop: ($6.00) 3 Q Q (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $4, BB raises to $14, Hero calls $10 - call here? or shove?

Turn: ($34.00) 4 (2 players)
BB bets $22, Hero calls $22 call again?

River: ($78.00) 3 (2 players)
BB bets $58.40 all in, Hero calls $58.40 fish call?
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villian is a fish, lims button like 80%, other time minraises button. he probably thinks i'm triyng to bluff him everu hand, calls down with top pair often, drawing to the flush no matter what etc. he insta potted the river. what now?

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BB: $92.20
Hero (BTN/SB): $214.80

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BTN/SB with Q J J 8
Hero raises to $3, BB calls $2

Flop: ($6.00) J K 4 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $4, BB calls $4

Turn: ($14.00) 4 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $12, BB calls $12

River: ($38.00) 4 (2 players)
BB bets $37.50, Hero ?
I shove.

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villian is adequate. haven't seen him doing anything crazy. i played this hand awful? fold turn?

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Hero (BTN/SB): $164.10
BB: $97.40

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BTN/SB with 8 7 J Q
Hero raises to $3, BB calls $2

Flop: ($6.00) 3 Q Q (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $4, BB raises to $14, Hero calls $10 - call here? or shove?

Turn: ($34.00) 4 (2 players)
BB bets $22, Hero calls $22 call again?

River: ($78.00) 3 (2 players)
BB bets $58.40 all in, Hero calls $58.40 fish call?
the river is so gay, because now we are worried about QAxx and KQxx more than Q3xx. I might fold the river, but dunno.
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