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#1, just cuz he's fish doesn't mean he doesn't have the nut straight when he pots out there multi-way. Call and draw to boat every time

#2 definitely not a butcher. I think you gotta get it in there. Let him keep flopping bottom sets and he'll get killed

#3 reraise PF to isolate? without suits, you aren't holding a great multiway hand.

Those hands were played on HUD stats and hands shown down previous, not with the brain. Thats what annoyed me the most, but glad to say of the $10 thats gone, $6 is back from just keeping ABC and to a few simples.

But i guess you need hands like this now and again to keep you in check, other wise it be too easy and we all be rich!

MP = 23/16/ 6.7AF 650 hands
CO = 49/6 1.1AF 80 hands

Anyone just flatting the flop instead of getting it in? Any other comments on the hand?


IPoker Network $20.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
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BTN: $20.00
Hero (SB): $24.20
BB: $10.41
UTG: $19.00
MP: $73.54
CO: $22.39

Pre Flop: ($0.30) Hero is SB with J K 9 T
1 fold, MP raises to $0.70, CO calls $0.70, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.60, 1 fold

Flop: ($2.30) 2 7 8 (3 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $1.50, CO raises to $6, [color=red]Hero raises to $21.80

Villain is 10/0 2.5 AF over 100 hands. Is stacking off fine here? Or would seeing a turn and re evaluating be better as we're in position?

IPoker Network $20.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 5 players
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BB: $20.61
UTG: $33.55
CO: $23.68
Hero (BTN): $26.23
SB: $33.63

Pre Flop: ($0.30) Hero is BTN with 7 9 Q 4
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.70, 1 fold, BB calls $0.50

Flop: ($1.50) 8 4 T (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1.00, BB raises to $4.50, Hero raises to $15, BB calls $10.50

Turn: ($31.50) 9 (2 players)
BB bets $4.91, Hero calls $4.91

Just jam imo. You're a favorite over top set and nut flush draw. It's going to suck when you flat and any heart comes or the board pairs and CO leads into you.

1. This guy has donk-bet and/or floated 3 of my last 4 PFR's. He runs 65/25 and is pissing me off big time.

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
PL Omaha $1(BB) Replayer
SB ($127)
BB ($135)
Hero ($100)
BTN ($60.76)

Dealt to Hero A A 6 9

Hero raises to $3, fold, SB calls $2.50, fold

FLOP ($7) 6 3 2

SB bets $7, Hero calls $7

TURN ($21) 6 3 2 6

SB bets $21, Hero calls $21

RIVER ($63) 6 3 2 6 T

SB bets $31.50, Hero


2. Against a weakish 65/30. I played him 50 hands HU earlier. He didn't 3bet PF or check/raise the flop once.

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SB ($50)
($178)
UTG ($109)
Hero ($117)

Hero raises to $3, fold, UTG calls $2

FLOP ($6.50) 2 7 6

UTG checks, Hero Cbets?

1. standard call
2. hero's hand = ?

I call Hand 1, but I don't like it.

Hand 2, your hand would help and it probably belongs in it's own thread.

Still to be re-reading OP ITT, IMO.

Wow wtf

KKQ9

Depends on his fold to flop c-bet stat, IMO. Against a standard unknown, I probably do as last money in, but I c-bet way too much (~82%) so ymmv.

Sigh, is it wrong to get it in here? im 60/40 fav here. Why cant i win one as a fav? Of all the AI i have one, ive sucked out.................

PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha, $0.02 BB (6 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Logieuk (CO) ($2.40)
Button ($2.43)
SB ($1.82)
BB ($5.20)
UTG ($5.88)
MP ($1.98)

Preflop: Logieuk is CO with A, 8, K, 10
2 folds, Logieuk calls $0.02, Button bets $0.09, SB calls $0.08, 1 fold, Logieuk calls $0.07

Flop: ($0.29) J, 6, 9 (3 players)
SB bets $0.28, Logieuk calls $0.28, Button raises to $1.40, 1 fold, Logieuk raises to $2.31 (All-In), Button calls $0.91

Turn: ($5.19) 8 (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($5.19) 5 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $5.19 | Rake: $0.25

Results:
Button had Q, 7, 4, 10 (straight, Queen high).
Logieuk had A, 8, K, 10 (one pair, eights).
Outcome: Button won $4.94

I open it PF. Also, I think flop is a fold. You have a bare 8-out draw plus two backdoor FD's. There are two people left to act behind you. Your equity against made hands is not great, and your draw could be badly dominated.

bump

QJJT

I limp UTG, UTG+1 raises pot who is a tight player.

Standard fold? Would of called if hand was DS

Why not open UTG?

Normally raising makes no difference, i could raise and still get rest of the table call. But i thought its a hand that you dont want to be calling 3b with or can 4b with?

Its PLO btw where people call and raise with any ds hand or something that looks pretty

Meh, I'm indifferent to b/f vs. b/c. We have Aces and a gutshot on a pretty dry board, yet he called. If he had just Qx, I think he would have raised there to try and get it in/increase FE for the turn. I put him on something waiting for you to bet the turn and him raising you then. Then again, maybe he's just floating you on the dryish board.

I think if you're bet/calling, your bet-size is fine. I'd bet a bit smaller (~6) if bet/folding. I think his pushing range is pretty inelastic.

Kind of a strange hand as far as flop action. Do you fold to the 3bet on the flop? Once it gets 4bet, now fold? If the Ah on the board was a King and I had the nutflush draw, do you get it in on flop considering it's just a limped pot and I'm 180bb deep?

I played the hand thinking I had the nut flush draw. Turn checked around, river came a heart and I jammed 130bb thinking I had the nuts. Second I potted it, I realized I didn't and felt dumb.

Full Tilt Poker $10.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 5 players
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CO: $12.10
BTN: $23.26
Hero (SB): $18.79
BB: $47.35
UTG: $18.58

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is SB with 9 A Q K
UTG calls $0.10, 1 fold, BTN calls $0.10, Hero calls $0.05, BB checks

Flop: ($0.40) 2 A 6 (4 players)
Hero bets $0.30, BB raises to $0.90, UTG calls $0.90, BTN raises to $2, Hero calls $1.70, BB raises to $5.40, UTG folds, BTN calls $3.40, Hero calls $3.40

I think you can fold to the 3! Seems like one of those against a better hand and a better draw situations. It's definitely a fold by the 4-bet, IMO.

Your line is fine probably if you did have the NFD, which has good enough equity often in multiway pots.
Just take a better look at your cards next time lol =]

ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation

820 trials (Exhaustive)

board: 6 6 A

Hand	Pot equity	Wins	Ties
Qh Jd Jc 4s	20.49%	168	0
As Kc 8d 8h	79.51%	652	0

Can someone explain to me why QJJ4 has so much equity here? No running two pair, no back door draws except the one broadway. In holdem, the backdoor straight would be worth about 3% and the set draw about 8%. What am I missing?

EDIT: The six! Nevermind

Full Tilt Poker $1/$2 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players - View hand 1021728
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CO: $387.05
BTN: $113.00
SB: $91.00
BB: $208.30
UTG: $228.35
Hero (MP): $232.95

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is MP with 2 A A 5
1 fold, Hero raises to $7, CO calls $7, 1 fold, SB calls $6, BB calls $5

Flop: ($28.00) Q Q 9 (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $18, CO folds, SB raises to $82, BB folds, Hero folds


should I just c/f given that it's multiway?

Hi guys

I'm making the switch to PLO from NLHE and wondered if there are any tools out there where I can type in a percentage and see what hand ranges that is in Omaha.

I know what a 20/10/3 player is at NLHE but sure the same stats for a Omaha player would through up a ocmpletely different range

www.propokertools.com is probably your best bet although it's not as easy as you'll probably want (afaik). You have to put in a hand and it will tell you a percentage rank.

Probably try lots of different hand types.

Edit: There are so many combinations of Omaha hands that it's going to be a hard way to think about ranges, IMO.

I don't think c-bet folding is horrible as there are definitely Q's in your range and you take it down some of the time right away. If you only bet this flop when you have a Q, that's not good. If anyone calls, I'm done with the hand UI (unimproved for whoever asked in another thread).