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Old 09-10-2009, 01:03 PM   #226
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

river ez muck? anyone betting turn? couple hands ago villian c'raised my flop c-bet with air on monotone board. how often it's a BDFD?? hi is 2p2'er, scary_tiger, i dont know why i'm playing with him... now back to table selection

Poker Stars $0.50/$1 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 2 players
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BB: $217.60
Hero (BTN/SB): $130.70

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BTN/SB with Q 6 T 2
Hero raises to $3, BB calls $2

Flop: ($6.00) 2 8 Q (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $4, BB raises to $16, Hero calls $12

Turn: ($38.00) T (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: ($38.00) 6 (2 players)
BB bets $30, Hero
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Old 09-10-2009, 01:08 PM   #227
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

same villian anyone like it? river betsizing?

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BB: $199.00
Hero (BTN/SB): $100.50

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BTN/SB with J J J K
Hero raises to $3, BB calls $2

Flop: ($6.00) A 6 9 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $4, BB calls $4

Turn: ($14.00) 5 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $12, BB calls $12

River: ($38.00) 2 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $28, BB calls $28
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Old 09-10-2009, 01:09 PM   #228
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

valuebet river?

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BB: $176.10
Hero (BTN/SB): $177.80

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BTN/SB with 4 5 7 8
Hero raises to $3, BB raises to $9, Hero calls $6

Flop: ($18.00) T 2 A (2 players)
BB bets $12, Hero calls $12

Turn: ($42.00) J (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: ($42.00) 3 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero
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Old 09-10-2009, 01:11 PM   #229
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

Yes, I bet half pottish.

And I would bet turn probably, but not sure.
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Old 09-10-2009, 01:25 PM   #230
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

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same villian anyone like it? river betsizing?

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BB: $199.00
Hero (BTN/SB): $100.50

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BTN/SB with J J J K
Hero raises to $3, BB calls $2

Flop: ($6.00) A 6 9 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $4, BB calls $4

Turn: ($14.00) 5 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $12, BB calls $12

River: ($38.00) 2 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $28, BB calls $28
Extra spewy goodness here.
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Old 09-10-2009, 01:26 PM   #231
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

k... knew it lol
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Old 09-10-2009, 01:30 PM   #232
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

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valuebet river?

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BB: $176.10
Hero (BTN/SB): $177.80

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BTN/SB with 4 5 7 8
Hero raises to $3, BB raises to $9, Hero calls $6

Flop: ($18.00) T 2 A (2 players)
BB bets $12, Hero calls $12

Turn: ($42.00) J (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: ($42.00) 3 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero
No, check behind. Hands that beat you > worse hands that pay you off.
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Old 09-11-2009, 03:58 AM   #233
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

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BB: $7.05
UTG: $12.25
MP: $15.85
CO: $38.66
Hero (BTN): $22.25
SB: $9.00

UTG posts a big blind ($0.25)

Pre Flop: ($0.60) Hero is BTN with 7 K 9 T
UTG checks, MP calls $0.25, 1 fold, Hero raises to $1.35, 3 folds, MP calls $1.10

Flop: ($3.30) 8 6 Q (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $1.50


Villain seems fairly tight but likes to fire anytime I show weakness. Any merit to checking here?
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Old 09-11-2009, 05:18 AM   #234
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BB: $7.05
UTG: $12.25
MP: $15.85
CO: $38.66
Hero (BTN): $22.25
SB: $9.00

UTG posts a big blind ($0.25)

Pre Flop: ($0.60) Hero is BTN with 7 K 9 T
UTG checks, MP calls $0.25, 1 fold, Hero raises to $1.35, 3 folds, MP calls $1.10

Flop: ($3.30) 8 6 Q (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $1.50


Villain seems fairly tight but likes to fire anytime I show weakness. Any merit to checking here?
no, i bet here everytime.
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Old 09-11-2009, 06:36 AM   #235
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

is this ok?

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Hero (BTN/SB): $102.70
BB: $219.30

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BTN/SB with Q J A 8
Hero raises to $3, BB calls $2

Flop: ($6.00) 6 3 8 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $4, BB raises to $17.70, Hero raises to $58.80, BB raises to $182.10, Hero calls $40.90 all in
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Old 09-11-2009, 06:39 AM   #236
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

anyone shoving turn here to avoid river misstakes, what if i'll fold best hand on the river? as i come this far to the river i should call now with these odds?

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Hero (BTN/SB): $196.60
BB: $111.40

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BTN/SB with 3 Q J Q
Hero raises to $3, BB calls $2

Flop: ($6.00) 8 9 Q (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $4, BB raises to $16, Hero calls $12

Turn: ($38.00) A (2 players)
BB bets $37.50, Hero calls $37.50

River: ($113.00) 5 (2 players)
BB bets $41, Hero calls $41
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Old 09-11-2009, 08:15 AM   #237
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

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is this ok?

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Hero (BTN/SB): $102.70
BB: $219.30

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BTN/SB with Q J A 8
Hero raises to $3, BB calls $2

Flop: ($6.00) 6 3 8 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $4, BB raises to $17.70, Hero raises to $58.80, BB raises to $182.10, Hero calls $40.90 all in
HU I think this is fine, still dependent on dynamics obv. You 2 played similar hands this session?
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Old 09-11-2009, 08:16 AM   #238
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anyone shoving turn here to avoid river misstakes, what if i'll fold best hand on the river? as i come this far to the river i should call now with these odds?

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Hero (BTN/SB): $196.60
BB: $111.40

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BTN/SB with 3 Q J Q
Hero raises to $3, BB calls $2

Flop: ($6.00) 8 9 Q (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $4, BB raises to $16, Hero calls $12

Turn: ($38.00) A (2 players)
BB bets $37.50, Hero calls $37.50

River: ($113.00) 5 (2 players)
BB bets $41, Hero calls $41
Exactly what I'm doing here: shoving to 1) protect hand 2) avoid a nasty river situation. Plenty of combo's that he can play similar and might even fold when you shove. If not, plenty of outs
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Old 09-11-2009, 08:27 AM   #239
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

thx finn.
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Old 09-11-2009, 09:07 AM   #240
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

If I shove turn it's not for protection...there's nothing we need to protect against. I'm shoving because we have everything but j10 so ****ing crushed and I want value now.
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Old 09-11-2009, 09:28 AM   #241
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

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is this ok?

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Hero (BTN/SB): $102.70
BB: $219.30

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BTN/SB with Q J A 8
Hero raises to $3, BB calls $2

Flop: ($6.00) 6 3 8 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $4, BB raises to $17.70, Hero raises to $58.80, BB raises to $182.10, Hero calls $40.90 all in
I think this is great. There are just so many draws here that you are crushing. He could show up here with two pair sometimes (even then you have all those overcards to hit), and I think if he defends too widely he could show up with a set. I bet get it in here all day though, HU this is a monster hand.
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Old 09-11-2009, 11:15 AM   #242
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

Just been starting to play Omaha... this standard? thoughts? thanks...
(First hand @ the table... Shortstack has stacked off on stupid hands and is basically dead money from what ive seen. No reads on Dzah)

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Stacks:
UTG Dzah***4 ($30.00)
UTG+1 west***5 ($3.14)
CO kets***6 ($21.02)
BTN Swah***7 ($53.82)
SB omgl***8 ($54.70)
BB Hero ($20.00)

Pre-flop: ($0.30, 6 players) Hero is BB Q A 8 T
Dzah***4 raises to $0.70, west***5 calls $0.70, 2 folds, omgl***8 calls $0.60, Hero calls $0.50

Flop: K 6 J ($2.80, 4 players)
omgl***8 checks, Hero checks, Dzah***4 bets $2, west***5 goes all-in $2.44, omgl***8 folds, Hero raises to $12.12, Dzah***4 goes all-in $27.30, Hero goes all-in $7.18
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Old 09-11-2009, 12:22 PM   #243
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

Spew or standard?

Any thoughts and comments are appreciated.

Hand # 1

Villain is 35/27/1.4 3-bet 13.3%.
Given the pre flop 3-bet can only guess at PLO50 that this is aces on the flop the only thing I'm really worried about is the nfd.


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UTG: $50.50
CO: $88.20
BTN: $38.80
Hero (SB): $56.85
BB: $66.90

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is SB with 8 9 T 7
1 fold, CO raises to $1.75, 1 fold, Hero calls $1.50, BB raises to $7, 1 fold, Hero calls $5.25

Flop: ($15.75) 7 3 J (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $13.00, Hero raises to $49.85


Hand #2

Villain is 88/76.5/5 40% 3-bet

I guess I'm just flipping here, but my thoughts are that double suited queens are ahead of his range.

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CO: $45.35
BTN: $117.05
SB: $50.00
BB: $71.70
Hero (UTG): $50.00
MP: $152.55

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is UTG with 6 Q 7 Q
Hero raises to $1.50, MP calls $1.50, CO raises to $6.75, 3 folds, Hero calls $5.25, MP calls $5.25

Flop: ($21.00) J 7 5 (3 players)
Hero checks, MP checks, CO bets $21.00, Hero raises to $42, MP folds, CO calls $17.60 all in
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Old 09-11-2009, 12:34 PM   #244
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Spew or standard?

Any thoughts and comments are appreciated.

Hand # 1

Villain is 35/27/1.4 3-bet 13.3%.
Given the pre flop 3-bet can only guess at PLO50 that this is aces on the flop the only thing I'm really worried about is the nfd.


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UTG: $50.50
CO: $88.20
BTN: $38.80
Hero (SB): $56.85
BB: $66.90

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is SB with 8 9 T 7
1 fold, CO raises to $1.75, 1 fold, Hero calls $1.50, BB raises to $7, 1 fold, Hero calls $5.25

Flop: ($15.75) 7 3 J (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $13.00, Hero raises to $49.85


Hand #2

Villain is 88/76.5/5 40% 3-bet

I guess I'm just flipping here, but my thoughts are that double suited queens are ahead of his range.

Full Tilt Poker $50.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
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CO: $45.35
BTN: $117.05
SB: $50.00
BB: $71.70
Hero (UTG): $50.00
MP: $152.55

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is UTG with 6 Q 7 Q
Hero raises to $1.50, MP calls $1.50, CO raises to $6.75, 3 folds, Hero calls $5.25, MP calls $5.25

Flop: ($21.00) J 7 5 (3 players)
Hero checks, MP checks, CO bets $21.00, Hero raises to $42, MP folds, CO calls $17.60 all in


Also, if he is 3betting 40% I would shove these queens on him preflop.
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Old 09-11-2009, 02:23 PM   #245
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Spew or standard?

Any thoughts and comments are appreciated.

Hand # 1

Villain is 35/27/1.4 3-bet 13.3%.
Given the pre flop 3-bet can only guess at PLO50 that this is aces on the flop the only thing I'm really worried about is the nfd.


Full Tilt Poker $50.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 5 players
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UTG: $50.50
CO: $88.20
BTN: $38.80
Hero (SB): $56.85
BB: $66.90

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is SB with 8 9 T 7
1 fold, CO raises to $1.75, 1 fold, Hero calls $1.50, BB raises to $7, 1 fold, Hero calls $5.25

Flop: ($15.75) 7 3 J (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $13.00, Hero raises to $49.85


Hand #2

Villain is 88/76.5/5 40% 3-bet

I guess I'm just flipping here, but my thoughts are that double suited queens are ahead of his range.

Full Tilt Poker $50.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
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CO: $45.35
BTN: $117.05
SB: $50.00
BB: $71.70
Hero (UTG): $50.00
MP: $152.55

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is UTG with 6 Q 7 Q
Hero raises to $1.50, MP calls $1.50, CO raises to $6.75, 3 folds, Hero calls $5.25, MP calls $5.25

Flop: ($21.00) J 7 5 (3 players)
Hero checks, MP checks, CO bets $21.00, Hero raises to $42, MP folds, CO calls $17.60 all in
I think both are fine but since villains range in Hand 1 is really polarized I guess we can see a turn and get it in even more safely when we hit since it will be very hard for him to fold his aces given the size of the pot.

Against a villain like the one in hand 2 I guess this might even be ok with a single Backdoor FD.
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Old 09-11-2009, 02:28 PM   #246
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

villain unknown


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MP: $25.90
Hero (CO): $30.50
BTN: $33.40
SB: $32.50
BB: $20.80
UTG: $29.40

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is CO with K 9 K 3
UTG raises to $0.85, MP calls $0.85, Hero calls $0.85, 2 folds, BB calls $0.60

Flop: ($3.50) 2 2 2 (4 players)
BB checks, UTG bets $2.75, MP folds, Hero calls $2.75, BB folds

Turn: ($9.00) 9 (2 players)
UTG bets $8.60, Hero folds

Final Pot: $9.00
UTG wins $8.60
(Rake: $0.40)
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Old 09-11-2009, 02:59 PM   #247
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shoobri-

Hand 1 is fine, hand 2 I think shoving preflop might be better with villain's stats. You are a bit ahead of villain's range and your hand probably fares better HU than 3-way.

Robb-

I don't like to under-represent my hand here and have to fold later on, so I'll raise small on the flop here pretty often (and fold to a re-raise or a call and turn donkbet, etc). Given your call, I'd fold the turn against an unknown.
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Old 09-11-2009, 03:01 PM   #248
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

Villain is a fish, playing J567 Q235 w/ a suited queen from MP etc.

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MP2: $284.90
CO: $37.00
Hero (BTN): $197.00
SB: $117.70
BB: $163.30
UTG: $147.05
UTG+1: $71.00
MP1: $246.55

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is BTN with 6 5 A 3
2 folds, MP1 calls $2, MP2 raises to $9, 1 fold, Hero raises to $32, 3 folds, MP2 calls $23

Flop: ($69.00) 6 T A (2 players)
MP2 checks, Hero bets $42.00, MP2 calls $42

Turn: ($153.00) 3 (2 players)
MP2 checks, Hero bets $123.00, MP2 calls $123

River: ($399.00) 4 (2 players)
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Old 09-11-2009, 04:22 PM   #249
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^looks fine although I don't like 3betting low aces like that, when you flop an ace without two pair, you're drawing slim to any action
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Old 09-11-2009, 05:49 PM   #250
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

$0.10/0.25 Pot limit Omaha Cash Games, 6 Players
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Board:
UTG: $50
CO: $50
Button: $25.07
SB: $76.80
BB: $22.80
UTG+1: $39.13

Dealt to BB K 5 6 7

Pre-flop:
UTG+1 calls $.25, UTG checks, CO checks, Button raises to $1.60, SB calls $1.50, BB....

If this was an Ad I am definetly 3betting, but with the Kd OOP? Thoughts?

new to table, no real reads, button just 3bet me the hand before with 89TJr,

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