For online 6-max PLO10, is it profitable to open UTG with baby rundowns like 6543ds? If not utg, at which pisition would you open with it?

yes.

6-Max. PLO10.

UTG: $10
UTG+1 (HERO): $11.75
BUTTON: $45

UTG opens to $0.35. Hero 3-bets to $1.20 with AAJ7. BUTTON calls. Two folds to UTG who calls.

Flop ($3.75): 942

UTG checks. Hero bets how much?

I usually check here - we don't block any cards and we're not thrilled with any T cards. Bet safe T or small R but happier to c/c one street.

As played fold.

Thoughts on this?

PLO 10 on ignition

Utg( $10), opens to .35
F,f
Co (5.31) calls
Hero, button (10) calls with T986

Flop KT7

Utg 1.38
Co 4.96 ai
Hero ai

Utg calls



Is this fine?

I would fold because...

1. Both opponents in front show lots of strength.
2. T986 has barely open-end 8 outs (probably less) since any J may give either opponent a higher straight.
3. 6 blocks another out of T986
4. Two T outs may not be good.
5. Your backdoor spade flush does add back a bit value.

You definitely cannot stack off on this flop against two players. There is a substantial risk of running into a superior wrap. The odd time you get it in against top and middle set will not balance out the times you get it in drawing very slim. This is really a garbage wrap, your only nut out is the 6.

Luckily, this isn't a flop that UTG should be hitting too often, although we don't have any reads or stats so it is possible he is opening wider than we would expect. Of course this is also a flop that you never have anything on also. We don't block villains continuing range at all (I guess we block A3 and A5?) and do not really have any turns. Even one of our aces completes a flush. The most we can pick up otherwise is a gutty, although a 2 or 4 would be decent. I think we can check back.

No, although I would certainly open 9876 even single suited from UTG,. 6543 is just a pretty weak hand, you are always going to make the bottom end of things.

Plo 10 ignition, no reads

4 handed

Co (19.88) opens .23
Button (13.55) calls
Hero sb (8.63) 3! $1.02 with KQJT
BB (7.89) calls
Co calls
Button calls

K28

I check, bb check CO 1.52, button folds

I call

Turn 3

Hero shoves ai for 6.09 with pair + fd

Thoughts? Should I have checked?

Just to add on to this, I am pretty sure I saw a Jnandez video the other day where they were saying 7543 ds is like a break even open from MP.

GG Poker - $0.25 PL Hi FAST (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 181.48 BB
SB: 38.28 BB
BB: 249.04 BB
UTG: 78 BB
Hero (MP): 454.28 BB
CO: 277.24 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has A Q T J

fold, Hero raises to 3.4 BB, fold, BTN raises to 11.6 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 36.2 BB, BTN raises to 110 BB, Hero ?

Vs. unknown deeper what are we supposed to do when 4bet with this hand?

Omaha Hi Simulation ?
600,000 trials (Randomized)
Hand Equity Wins Ties
AcQcTsJs 37.58% 222,709 5,489
AA 62.42% 371,802 5,489


I think we're pretty indifferent between call and fold, so I'm going to fold and save myself the variance. Call if you're stuck.

What the? No?

We're facing a 5b not a 4b. In both cases, call. Initial 4bet was correct.

6543ds is an UTG open, yes, but no, wheelcards suck and single suits blow so I should have delimited my very short answer a bit, yes. It was reckless.

My bad I misread and thought it was gapped.

That said, I have some doubts whether it's an open if it's 10PLO rake.

6542ds is an open, too, btw. its like 0.1bb +EV but still. youre right though, on lowest stakes these hands might be a fold. i just checked for plo50 and its fine too. still good advice to not overplay those baby runnies!

new to plo. feel very uncomfortable 3b'ing oop so will post a few hands just to try and assure myself i'm playing ok. . .

Hand History driven straight to this forum with DriveHUD Poker HUD and Database Software

PL Omaha 0.05(BB)
BTN ($11.23) [VPIP: 31.9% | PFR: 17.7% | AGG: 29.2% | Flop Agg: 30% | Turn Agg: 31.8% | 3-Bet: 2.1% | 4-Bet: 33.3% | Hands: 144]
SB ($5) [VPIP: 47.4% | PFR: 26.3% | AGG: 29.4% | Hands: 21]
HERO ($5.25) [VPIP: 16% | PFR: 9.8% | AGG: 26.6% | Flop Agg: 27.4% | Turn Agg: 29.1% | 3-Bet: 2.3% | Fold to 3-Bet: 34% | 4-Bet: 14.3% | Hands: 45364]
UTG ($8.84) [VPIP: 34.1% | PFR: 0% | AGG: 5.9% | Hands: 137]
HJ ($3.49) [VPIP: 25% | PFR: 5% | AGG: 20% | Hands: 20]
CO ($5) [VPIP: 36% | PFR: 8% | AGG: 28.7% | Hands: 180]

Dealt to Hero: 8 A 9 K

UTG Folds, HJ Folds, CO Folds, BTN Raises To $0.15, SB Folds, HERO Raises To $0.47, BTN Calls $0.32

Hero SPR on Flop: [4.98 effective]
Flop ($0.96): A 4 3
HERO Checks, BTN Bets $0.46 (Rem. Stack: $10.30), HERO Calls $0.46 (Rem. Stack: $4.32)

Turn ($1.88): A 4 3 2
HERO Checks, BTN Bets $1.15 (Rem. Stack: $9.15), HERO Folds

I'm guessing on the flop I cbet anything stronger than what I have here? Also, how is the 3B with this hand?

I feel stupid posting this, but I am unsure of if i should CB in spots like this oop. On the one hand, I feel like it's a clear bet for value, but on the other hand getting raised would put me in a very awkward spot. If i were to get raised, Is it correct to call and continue on a spade, Q and A?

PL Omaha 0.05(BB)
BTN ($7.30) [VPIP: 17.4% | PFR: 14.3% | AGG: 20% | Hands: 164]
HERO ($5) [VPIP: 16% | PFR: 9.8% | AGG: 26.6% | Flop Agg: 27.4% | 3-Bet: 2.3% | Fold to 3-Bet: 34% | 4-Bet: 14.3% | Hands: 45364]
BB ($5) [VPIP: 17.2% | PFR: 3.4% | AGG: 20% | Hands: 29]
UTG ($2.24) [VPIP: 39.7% | PFR: 25.6% | AGG: 17.9% | Hands: 78]
HJ ($1.30) [VPIP: 43.2% | PFR: 24% | AGG: 27.7% | Hands: 234]
CO ($5) [VPIP: 56.3% | PFR: 43.8% | AGG: 41.7% | Flop Agg: 71.4% | 3-Bet: 33.3% | 4-Bet: 0% | Hands: 16]

Dealt to Hero: J 8 A A

UTG Folds, HJ Folds, CO Raises To $0.11, BTN Folds, HERO Raises To $0.38, BB Folds, CO Calls $0.27

Hero SPR on Flop: [5.7 effective]
Flop ($0.81): T 5 K
HERO Bets $0.69 (Rem. Stack: $3.93), CO Folds

preflop is good play, on flop we generally have a range advantage so you can lead small and maybe even call a raise to it with backdoor, but check call flop is a valid play too i think.
since we dont have any backup folding turn is the right play vs continued aggression.

re: AK98ds

Looks good to me, although I think cbetting 33% is more standard. Interestingly, we jam over a raise on A56r if we do get raised, but mostly flat on A32r. Don't have an A45 sim, but I imagine it would be a mix.

Post in same post imo.

first of all, dont feel stupid posting anything here, PLO is a stupid game

this a good board for our range. i would lead half pot and shove vs a raise with our overpair+nutgutter and BDFD and BDNFDblocker

Thanks for the input guys, I’ll post some more hands soon

should this be a cbet? I feel like it's too weak multiway and we'd just be hoping for folds.


PL Omaha 0.05(BB)
BTN ($5.09) [VPIP: 86% | PFR: 42% | AGG: 26.1% | Flop Agg: 23.8% | Turn Agg: 25% | River Agg: 33.3% | 3-Bet: 30% | 4-Bet: 0% | Hands: 52]
SB ($24.96) [VPIP: 39.4% | PFR: 24.2% | AGG: 33.2% | Flop Agg: 36.7% | Turn Agg: 35.1% | River Agg: 21.1% | 3-Bet: 4.2% | 4-Bet: 20% | Cold Call: 38.8% | Hands: 269]
HERO ($13.58) [VPIP: 16.1% | PFR: 9.9% | AGG: 26.8% | Flop Agg: 27.6% | Turn Agg: 29.6% | River Agg: 20.8% | 3-Bet: 2.4% | Fold to 3-Bet: 33.4% | 4-Bet: 14.1% | Hands: 46731]
UTG ($4.25) [VPIP: 36% | PFR: 8% | AGG: 40.5% | Hands: 52]
HJ ($6.42) [VPIP: 50% | PFR: 32.1% | AGG: 33.3% | Hands: 57]
CO ($8.37) [VPIP: 18.7% | PFR: 11.5% | AGG: 26.5% | Hands: 1360]

Dealt to Hero: K 9 A T

UTG Folds, HJ Folds, CO Folds, BTN Raises To $0.17, SB Calls $0.15, HERO Raises To $0.68, BTN Calls $0.51, SB Calls $0.51

Hero SPR on Flop: [2.16 effective]
Flop ($2.04): 2 A Q
SB Checks, HERO Checks, BTN Checks

Turn ($2.04): 2 A Q 9
SB Checks, HERO Bets $1.29 (Rem. Stack: $11.61), BTN Folds, SB Calls $1.29 (Rem. Stack: $22.99)

River ($4.62): 2 A Q 9 3
SB Checks, HERO Checks

Too thin on the river? usually I'd happily check back, but anything that beats us would have raised the turn the majority of the time (except QT) and if i get raised i can just muck. felt like there were a decent group of hands to get value from that would call a 1//3 pot bet

EDIT: after posting this, i realized it's very similar to the hand above. And i remember the exact reason as to why i didn't bet the river in that hand was that the pot (or more importantly: the effective stacks) was getting too big, and I'd hate to be raised off of it. I guess the bigger the pot, the more scared i am of getting raised off it. If you have any thoughts on this, please let me know.


PL Omaha 0.05(BB)
HERO ($5.90) [VPIP: 16.1% | PFR: 9.9% | AGG: 26.8% | Flop Agg: 27.6% | Turn Agg: 29.6% | River Agg: 20.8% | 3-Bet: 2.4% | 4-Bet: 14.1% | Hands: 46731]
SB ($7.62) [VPIP: 48.9% | PFR: 8.7% | AGG: 10.6% | Hands: 98]
BB ($8.97) [VPIP: 23% | PFR: 12.2% | AGG: 17.1% | Flop Agg: 23.5% | Turn Agg: 14.3% | River Agg: 10% | 3-Bet: 4.2% | 4-Bet: 0% | Cold Call: 30.8% | Hands: 76]
UTG ($6.92) [VPIP: 76.9% | PFR: 0% | AGG: 18.2% | Hands: 14]
HJ ($8.39) [VPIP: 69.2% | PFR: 38.5% | AGG: 10.5% | Hands: 13]
CO ($14.09) [VPIP: 37.1% | PFR: 15.3% | AGG: 22.8% | Hands: 128]

Dealt to Hero: A 3 J Q

UTG Folds, HJ Folds, CO Folds, HERO Raises To $0.17, SB Folds, BB Calls $0.12

Hero SPR on Flop: [15.92 effective]
Flop ($0.36): 5 K 2
BB Checks, HERO Bets $0.23 (Rem. Stack: $5.50), BB Calls $0.23 (Rem. Stack: $8.57)

Turn ($0.82): 5 K 2 A
BB Checks, HERO Bets $0.52 (Rem. Stack: $4.98), BB Calls $0.52 (Rem. Stack: $8.05)

River ($1.86): 5 K 2 A J
BB Checks, HERO Bets $0.54 (Rem. Stack: $4.44), BB Calls $0.54 (Rem. Stack: $7.51)