Villian is 40/25 over 800hands
Do you like my defend here?
How to play turn?
River standard call? Villian rapping Aces full here but his range is polarized.

Probably folding pre here unless SB has some exploitable leaks postflop. As played i like the bet/check/call line. It’s close on whether or not to raise river but i think ultimately just the flat is best.

plo is a game of nuts and you only had the 3rd so well played.

but srs, why dafuq aren't you betting turn? why do you just call the river? also pre is kinda meh since your hand only has one thing going for it, but postflop is really bad.

I think you can fold pre but 3 handed I guess it's ok. Turn is playing a little scared to be afraid of exactly AA. I think you can bet again. River he could also have 8s full, not just aces full so you have to call. He would have every reason to believe 8s full is good here based on how you played it.

In my opinion, this is a poor opinion. We aren’t raising river because there are just as many combos of hands that beat us as there are hands we beat that also get a call. We are choosing not to bet turn as a good spot to bluff catch rivers (which is precisely what happened)

88 and AA beat him. he can beat A8, J8, maybe some kind of random 8x with a flush draw. I'd say combinatorically there are more A8 and J8 than 88 and AA.

not betting turn is very weak IMO, he has a 2nd set which is very likely still good. he can get value from flush draws (which he blocks), straight draws, two pair like AJ, A8, J8... so many weaker hands and so few better hands, noone on this forum can convince me that it's good to check turn here. so he shouldn't even be in a situation that he has to raise river because he should just bet turn. if you wouldn't bet the turn with this hand, which hands would you do it with? only AA?

I’m checking AA with the same frequency as the JJ. You’re missing the point, I’m not saying i check turn with second nuts because he might have AA. You can’t always get 3 streets of value in and in this case i like how he chose to go after 2

interesting line.

Very interesting line.

Defend with this hand is marginal at best.

I like small 3bet on flop.

After villain checked Ac on turn his range is super weak and capped and doesn`t look we can get 2 more streets of value.The main question here is:
Are you checking for pot control cause he can have AA or you slowplay?
If answer is first option very weak and bad check imo.you can not give credit to sb for having aa when he raises limpers.I raise like 50% when faced with limp.If you check to induce a bluff or to slowplay that's brilliant move!
Slowplaying in plo is extra rare and can be more profitable that barreling
sometimes.But after your river play I assume it was pot control.So I don`like
it,would at least min raise villain.

yes, vs this exact hand which villain had Martin's line was probably best. but against a whole range of hands I can't see how it could be. also the fact that villain calls a raise on the flop with that garbage is pretty insane, who knows, maybe he would have called another bet on the turn?

it's extra rare for a reason. to slowplay something, your hand needs to be invulnerable, which is the case only if you flop some kind of supernuts like aces full, set+nfd or some other kind of insane hand. and still if you flop supernuts and there are draws you can charge, do it. also, spr should be considered, slowplaying aces full in a 4bet pot is ok, while slowplaying in a single raised pot BTN vs BB is missing a chance to win a bigger pot.

Defo a defend since youll be getting a sick price as the other guy is calling for sure.plus you ll have position on the pfr.

Flop is great,turn im betting 90% of the time since 95% of players wont check top set on a board thats quite draw heavy.What they will often check is some kind of 9Txx that turned a TP and want to pot control.But you got him to bluff after you check back so well played.

River i basically never fold,even if i know hes wannabe trappy,i still call cause our hand is so underrepped.On top of that,you actually beat some valuebets if he somehow has A8(which you dont block at all) or if hes polarizing naked trips to make you hero with TP.

Always calling tho,no reason to raise as by this point he'll prolly have way more bluffs than value bets,and most players will fold naked trips vs a jam.

To be honest sometimes I don't know why I am doing what I am doing at pokertable.
I listen more to my instincts and try to focus on my feelings. Maybe I was checking the turn because I was not sure what kind of hands villian is calling the flop and would still call the turn after my raise on flop AND strong bet turn.
Sometimes I try to figure out what he is thinking about my line here but thats not simple at all...
But its great to get some feedback here.

First wp what i saw from you in the last 800posts. Pre iffy/bad but given playerpool whatever, flop turn wp, river could be a small raise but calling is fine.

Pre is pretty bad i think. Flop wp, but i really don't like checking the turn. I think it's definitely losing value in the long run as there are many hands(Axxx/wraps/fd combos) that might continue on this turn. Yeah you do block wraps(5/T) and fds, but not Axxx.
LOL @ villain checking the turn after being raised on the flop makes his range super weak.
It worked out for you this time and you got him to bluff the river in a very bad spot, but i don't like this line at all and villain is terrible.

Turn check is quite bad imo, pretty easy for villain to stack with ax 2p or just keep calling with draw hands

To add to why I dislike turn check, hero can raise this flop fairly liberally vs a sb opening range so we should be reluctant to just check the top of it on the turn, especially with not that nutty a club-draw

I dont get why most of you guys think pre is bad.

First of all,this hand although weak overall,does have some nuttiness and can make top sets and nut str8s.

But the most important thing is that a)you get to play IP vs the preflop raiser(and you dont really need that great of a hand when you got position since youll be able to steal so many pots)
b)you wanna get involved as much as possible with the limper,since hes prolly weak(unless its one of the rare cases where he actually has a balanced,thought through limping strat,but i really doubt it)
and c)youll be getting a great price since the limper will prolly flat as well

Imo this is a pretty good (maybe even standard in most games) defend,and would only consider folding if villains are good players and will make our lives super difficult post,or if the limper is into limp reraising alot.

Nah, don't like it. Pre is whatever. I can see turn/river line being viable at times but you never really made a case for it here. SB is just raising a button limp, not like it was an EP limp and a bunch of callers. Villain just has normal/loosish stats. Just seems like a lot of unwarranted respect.

I think this turn check was a huge mistake. Putting villain squarely on AA is monsters under the bed, and we should be betting pot against all other hands.

Oh boy, i misread the hand tought we had flush ott.
No good play in the last 800hands.

lmao

Pre, I think it's a fold. Your hand is polarized and so doesn't flop particularly well.

Flop, line looks great.

Turn, short-handed I think we can still continue as there's still a lot of his flop calling range that continues, such as AJxx and A8xx with connected cards, like A89T for example.

River, as played definitely not folding.

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