PokerStars - $0.50 PL Hi FAST (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 177.8 BB
SB: 277.36 BB
BB: 100 BB
UTG: 152.12 BB (VPIP: 35.03, PFR: 28.33, 3Bet Preflop: 21.43, Hands: 297)
MP: 136.6 BB
CO: 266.76 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q Q 9 K

UTG raises to 3.5 BB, MP calls 3.5 BB, fold, Hero raises to 15.5 BB, fold, fold, UTG calls 12 BB, fold

Flop: (36 BB, 2 players) 5 T J
UTG bets 25.66 BB, Hero ?


Villain is a decent reg, as far as I know, and capable of doing this with a wide range of hands.

I do not think he's doing this with a lot of made hands. I think his range consists of a lot of combodraws, possibly with a pair. The worst I could face is something like KK with a draw.

Pot is 36+25,66=61,66bb and I can make it 112bb. Effective stacks on the pot is about 140bbs.

If stacks were shallower I think this is a push a lot of the time, agree? Given stack sizes it's awkward though.

I think calling here, and pushing any blank is a decent plan.

Is this all 6max sample? 3b 21 is pretty darn loose.
How does villain perceive you? Does he think you have aces here most of the time?
I think i am calling and reevaluating on the turn. If the board pairs or the diamonds get there and he bombs, i think we can fold, otherways we are going broke. We block kings, so wouldn't be worried about him having those. I think he mostly has sets and combodraws(nut diamonds and a gutter or smt).

If we were shallower it`s a shove agree.

Villain could have here even top 2 or various open enders plus fd.I m not sure about

pushing on blank turns.I would definitely shove on any heart. I think he is

less likely to have sets when he donks.Calling and reevaluating on turn seems like

best option.

That´s a huge hand; we really don´t mind getting it in here, if we don´t want to shove in this case it´s because we think the benefits of seeing a turn in position to keep his range wide and give him the opportunity to repp our hand> the benefits of not making a mistake against his range by just pushing otf.

I think that´s the case here, but don´t mind raise gii. just don´t fold too easily ott.

You have to call this hand so you can defend vs. jams on blank turns. Most of your other hands that can do so would much rather just get the money in immediately on the flop.

6 max zoom yes.

I think Villain knows I have a 3bet range consiting of more than just aces, however my 3b range vs utg open is fairly tight, somewhere around top 5%.

I disagree that this a huge hand, it's a wrap and not even that great a wrap. You block some of your own outs (with the pair) and some outs won't even make you the nut straight.

With hands that you are getting it in with, you will hardly ever be in great shape. So a huge hand, not really imo. Sure we gamble with this hand but I'm not that enthusiastic once the cards are flipped over. For that reason I like to call and see a turn card.

Once you put him on a range, that range will consist of a lot of flushes prob more than half his hands, if a rolls of on the turn you just saved yourself a ton of money by NOT shoving on the flop. You get to see what he does on the turn and make a more informed decision.

You also improve a ton on the turn and then you get the get your money in with an equity advantage. With that being said he might slow down on scary turn cards though with some of his range but not with the range that was going to call your shove imo. That part of his range is likely calling a bet on the turn.

I´d like you to back that up with some simulations.

Kinda disagree with that. It is a valid point, but minor imo. Our flop flatting range after 3betting pre should contain enough hands that can continue on blank turns. Ofc, this specific hand is a very good candidate as well. I´d flat most of my range on that flop vs his line though.

PokerStars - $0.50 PL Hi FAST (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 177.8 BB
SB: 277.36 BB (VPIP: 30.41, PFR: 20.18, 3Bet Preflop: 6.45, Hands: 350)
BB: 100 BB (VPIP: 28.82, PFR: 16.23, 3Bet Preflop: 6.27, Hands: 985)
UTG: 152.12 BB (VPIP: 35.03, PFR: 28.33, 3Bet Preflop: 21.43, Hands: 297)
MP: 136.6 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 23.08, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 27)
CO: 266.76 BB (VPIP: 17.61, PFR: 9.04, 3Bet Preflop: 3.86, Hands: 674)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q Q 9 K

UTG raises to 3.5 BB, MP calls 3.5 BB, fold, Hero raises to 15.5 BB, fold, fold, UTG calls 12 BB, fold

Flop: (36 BB, 2 players) 5 T J
UTG bets 25.66 BB, Hero calls 25.66 BB

Turn: (87.32 BB, 2 players) 4
UTG bets 83.32 BB, Hero ?


Villain has 27.64 BB left, so he's effectively all in. This is a pot sized bet, but pokertracker does not calculate rake before after the pot, while pokerstars take's it out of the hand inbetween streets.

ship it in.
nh.

I'm curious, what part of our range do we rather raise the flop bet?

I guess once we get to the turn, and the 4 shows up, we have to go with the hand, I don't ever see myself folding here.

yea,i guess you have to ship it in on turn.You basically need 35% and is very hard for

villain to have you crushed in both directions:better made hand and better draw.

Not liking the squeeze pre m8, although I suppose it's far from terrible. Our hand is strong and we have position but we don't exactly crush reg UTG ranges. And if we get 4b we're lighting money on fire no matter what button we click

I think flop is a call and turn is a gii. I don't think villain donks the hands we don't have the required equity against...

Preflop I think the 3bet vs UTG is bad even if they're playing reasonably loose for UTG, hand just doesnt dominate anything unless they're an absolute maniac and even then this hand doesn't flop a very smooth equity distribution on average. If you were to 3bet vs a looser UTG a hand like KQJTds, KQJ9ds etc. Would be much better candidate to 3bet for the aforementioned equity distribution reasons.

Post flop you flop pretty strong for your hand, I'd usually call and GII on like non diamond turns but shoving doesn't seem like a huge disaster either.

This hand isn't even in PokerJuice 15% 3b IP range. I was surprised as well.

The predefined preflop ranges in PJ is not always ideal

They are at least a good starting point. To say you have a 3b range of 5% and the actual hand is not even in the top 15% of PJ 3bIP shows a pretty big disparity.

Would you mind expanding why you think this spot is one of those instances where the PJ predefined ranges is not ideal?