A common situation... We want to maintain the pressure OTT, but at he same time we're dead against a boat... I hate c/call turn and folding on a bad river...
What line could be better on the Flop and Turn?

PokerStars Zoom Pot-Limit Omaha, $0.05 BB (6 handed) - Converted at http://handhistoryconverter.com/

Button ($13.04)
SB ($6.68)
Hero (BB) ($6.85)
UTG ($14.09)
MP ($5.48)
CO ($18.11)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 5, 4, A, 9
2 folds, CO raises to $0.17, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.12

Flop: ($0.36) J, 2, 3 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $0.35, Hero raises to $1.40, CO calls $1.05

Turn: ($3.16) 3 (2 players)
Hero bets $3.04, CO raises to $6.08, Hero calls $2.24 (All-In)

River: ($13.72) K (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $13.72 | Rake: $0.54

Results:

I think preflop and flop are well played. Theres no need to pot the turn though. I'd go for a small bet (1/3rd pot) keeping in lower flushdraws. I'd guess we'd have to betfold though? Betting pot really doesnt achieve anything.

If river bricks i guess we can represent boats, if river completes our draw we can bet small again for value or check/call to catch a bluff.

Unfortunate that villian actually had a boat, in my experience villians range in this spot should contain mostly draws.

If you want to X/r flop and pot any turn you have to call off a shove, I find it's a bit easier to balance X/r, bet lines using smaller turn sizings especially when the SPR is 2 or less going into the turn, gives you room to bet fold and can incentivise your opponents to call lighter which benefits you when you have a lot of decent equity in this case or have the value portion of your range (boats) not to mention it leaves the option open on rivers to bluff, value bet or try to take showdown vs turn call.

Also worth mentioning that a smaller turn sizing is pretty much the same as a pot sizing in your opponents eyes as both sizings threaten his entire stack going into the river.

Check raise flop is the best play,but potting turn doesn`t make much sense.Are you

potting here with full house usually?Bet small and def fold to raise.

yep, now b/folding 1/3 pot OTT seems excellent to me... Thanks guys

+1

Turn is closer at 100bb.

I'm not really convinced hero can reasonably bet/fold turn for the sizings discussed, villain should have plenty of non-boats folding would not make sense for.

i think that´s the point

why does everyone like a small turn bet? it doesn't make a lot of sense for the VR we're repping. why don't we just check our entire range ott? idk how you incorporate a small turn leading range here and also a checking range and not be completely ****ed somewhere...and if we start leading everything small we can be destroyed by getting jammed on aggressively

Purpose of betting small is making sure you will have less then pot size bet on river so you threat your opponent remaining stack..If you had

fullhouse,intention is to get all the money in.Getting jammed by our opponent

doesn`t make sense:why would someone with fullhouse in position jam over our bet and not just call and possibly let us bluff the river?

Maybe you haven`t noticed hero was not leading turn:he c/raise flop and

then cbet turn as the last aggressor.I think that turn action is consistent with

flop play.Just to add the point of betting small is we lose less when our opponent have fullhouse.

I think its hard for the villain to have a fh but on the other hand we block all the draws.

balance on PLO5 is a nice donation to regs
pot flop, x/f turn, if villain x the turn and we hit our out then 33%/fold the river
easy as that, ABC ftw, it's PLO5 not a rocket science ffs

Maybe I transport holdem logic too much in this type of spot.

In general, theory dictates that if you rep narrow VR, should size up. BB reps very few strong hands here and probably would/should x some of them ott (like JJ) so when we lead the turn for a small size, our range is very heavy on draws. This allows V to pile turn with his draws + maybe some AA that unblock draws bc Hero just doesn't have a made hand often enough to punish this strategy.

Once jammed on, Hero is either forced to fold a lot of equity or make a lot of annoying/pbb BE or slightly -EV calls.

I understand that there are more FHs present in both player's ranges in this spot obv compared to holdem (rly depends how wide BB defends pre cuz 32 22 hands are often folded), but I don't know if it drastically changes the relative equity situation I described there^.

Just because BB have some nuts in our range doesn't mean we can go making small bets on boards which are very bad for us without being punished by better opponents is my thought.

I would bet smaller on the turn, say 27% pot

higher bet sizes generally look weaker, and I want the fold equity on the river aswell

When skimming the thread I heard mentions of b/fing turn.

NO. If he somehow has a boat then that is certainly cause to smile at pokers beautiful irony

I am checking the turn when board pairs and re evaluate when he bets. And if he checks back nothing wrong with getting a free river card. Its that turn that makes me do Tom Dwan roll my eyes and check.