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PLO200 - AA oop vs straddle, flop top set, second nuts turn facing raise. 0 pot, fold? PLO200 - AA oop vs straddle, flop top set, second nuts turn facing raise. 0 pot, fold?

11-25-2018 , 07:28 PM
I'm playing plo200 really crazy action on PPPoker, guy on the straddle is a really bad player, and known for being a station.

I have $708 stack, he has $500
anyway, I pot to $13, he calls pf.

I have AAQ2 with 3 spades.
Flop is AK2 rainbow. No spades.
I bet $18 into $27.
He calls

Turn is 5 of hearts, 2 hearts on the table. And is $63
I bet $42, he pots to $189. I call

river is $441 and comes the 8 of club
I have the second nuts, losing to a low straight.
he bets half pot, $220.


I'm not enterily sure if he would play his draws aggressive like that
I guess he could have set+fd on the turn
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11-25-2018 , 10:21 PM
Fold to the turn raise, you are around 3.5:1 against filling up and only getting 2:1.
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11-26-2018 , 11:18 AM
I would call this against straddle.
PLO200 - AA oop vs straddle, flop top set, second nuts turn facing raise. 0 pot, fold? Quote
11-27-2018 , 03:33 AM
I dont mean to be rude but this is such a clear call. First of all he cant really put you on AA. I've seen people do this with a random 2 pair, flush draw, lower sets. You are beating so much. Call. If he was to pot river then its slightly tougher spot but still a clear call.
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11-27-2018 , 04:55 AM
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I dont mean to be rude but this is such a clear call.

People don't usually put in 100 bbs without the nuts. The idea that he has say like K2 here is absurd.
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11-28-2018 , 09:58 PM
Pretty strong to raise turn and bet 110bbs on the river. That combined with the player being a station makes me fold the river for sure
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11-29-2018 , 12:08 AM
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Originally Posted by PokerPlayingGamble
People don't usually put in 100 bbs without the nuts. The idea that he has say like K2 here is absurd.
yes imo the answer to this puzzle is considering what hands you hope to beat that he would take this line with, ideally he would have a set, but you are blocking the 2. he could still have turned 555 or flopped kkk

but if he is weak enough to play 34xx then he is probably also weak enough to run bluffs into the abyss or bet K5xx for value

adding just one more piece of favorable information would make me call (for example if he was tilted, or if you had seen him make crazy bluffs before, etc). but imo you just have to make a weeping fold on the river
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11-29-2018 , 07:10 AM
Player description is enough to make this an easy call.

You also block 34hands with your two aces and a deuce.

Given price on river I wouldn’t fold this to a total rock either.
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11-29-2018 , 11:01 AM
Blockers matter very little when you're vs. A player that raises only the nuts and hes raising.
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11-30-2018 , 12:32 AM
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Originally Posted by PokerPlayingGamble
Fold to the turn raise, you are around 3.5:1 against filling up and only getting 2:1.
I think calling the turn raise MIGHT be fine. If he always has a straight here, and he'll call a river bet if the board pairs, you could still be getting the correct odds (ie he calls a pot sized bet >50% of the time). If you add in trip kings, trip 5s, random donky 2pair hands like K5 or the rare AK (all of which you absolutely crush), and some other combo draws, you'd be in better shape. You know better than we do how often he'll call on the river and/or if he bets any of the other hands here. Without knowing the player it definitely looks like a straight.

On the river you need to win 25% of the time to call. Again, it depends how often he bets the hands mentioned above. I'd lean towards folding.
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11-30-2018 , 10:10 AM
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I think calling the turn raise MIGHT be fine. If he always has a straight here, and he'll call a river bet if the board pairs, you could still be getting the correct odds (ie he calls a pot sized bet >50% of the time).
No, villain needs to stack off on the river 100% of the time, and even then we are still losing money. We've only got 9 outs so we are just under a 4:1 dog to fill up on the turn (35:9).


Of course villain might not have a straight, he might have a set + flush draw, but if you are going to play it for that, now you have to pay off the straight on the river as well.
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