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07-20-2017 , 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Jimbotbs
What part of the bankroll challenge was that?
Did he explain his fold?


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Early because he's not using a hud.
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07-20-2017 , 12:01 PM
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Last edited by Gillingham; 07-20-2017 at 12:04 PM. Reason: double post
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07-20-2017 , 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by illiterat
Hero's 3bet range doesn't interact with this flop well, and should be behind at least button's range. Hero also has a lot of marginal hands that need to check and would like to see a turn.



Ok, so what hands are in your checking range?
I think I'd rather lead with some AAss, but I don't mind checking everything.

cheers for reply illiterat, still a bit confusing though

ok his 3bet range might not interact with this flop well, but his actual hand does so why does this matter in this kind of hand, I can see how this can matter when you are bluffing but when you have an actual hand what does it matter?

it should be behind buttons range but in the actual hand we flop well. don't we play our actual cards not just a range?

yeah hero might have a lot of marginal hands in his range that need to check and see a turn but again his actual hand doesn't necessarily?



the hands in my checking range here would be my very strong hands eg when I have the nuts here or close to it, and a turn isn't going to affect me having pretty much the best hand. hands like 59KKss or the best straight, 9TAAss ( the very best hands kinda), pretty much slow playing.

the other hands in my checking range would be all the hands I am willing to check fold.

With this hand it would be almost strong enough for me to class as one of these hands to check with close to the nuts but it is not quite strong enough and I am drawing so I would bet/ get it in, I would have thought if I am checking here it is to induce as I am not folding and may get a little extra in the pot from making someone bet fold or something


can't seem to get my head around this idea
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07-20-2017 , 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Gillingham
cheers for reply illiterat, still a bit confusing though

ok his 3bet range might not interact with this flop well, but his actual hand does so why does this matter in this kind of hand, I can see how this can matter when you are bluffing but when you have an actual hand what does it matter?
Here we are bluffing we have A high if the flop doesn't hit our range our fold equity is lowered which is not what we want when we are bluffing/semibluffing

However this flop really isn't horrible for our range there are lots of T9 containing hands we are 3betting, or should be
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07-20-2017 , 04:48 PM
You can't bring up ranges and then advocate a c/fold.

If this hand isn't in your c/r range on this flop then btn can basically bet any hand and expect a fold almost always.

The presence of the bb makes it more unlikely that the btn is weak, but still you can't 3bet AJT4ss and then c/f this board, it makes zero sense.
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07-21-2017 , 03:00 AM
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Originally Posted by TheMVP
You can't bring up ranges and then advocate a c/fold.

If this hand isn't in your c/r range on this flop then btn can basically bet any hand and expect a fold almost always.

The presence of the bb makes it more unlikely that the btn is weak, but still you can't 3bet AJT4ss and then c/f this board, it makes zero sense.
Im not advocating anything I just don't think its a fistpump GII when the best equity we can have is 42%. There's very little fold equity after he bets pot so what's the point of getting it in, to balance our CR range so we can prevent being exploited at 20PL?
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