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Originally Posted by dingdongdonkey
but I'm not sure about the QQ part. Wouldn't he at least think about his river play if he could still easily be beat by turned Kings up? He just snap bet which is what many fun players do if they hit somehow hit the nuts on the river ... This move tilts me pretty hard, especially if I was bluffing anyway lol.
We shouldn't get into the habit of narrowing V's range down to one hand. We raised the turn, V knows he has to hit a boat/straight to beat us. Him snapjamming the river, when he gets there, is just another indicator. Given the way the hand plays out, population tendencies and timing tells, I will assume that V's range is Full Houses only.
That being said: I believe MP is more likely to bet topset than two pair or a worse set. When we raise the turn, we are saying "I have JT" very loud and clear. Opponent is drawing to beat a straight, looking for the boardpair. It doesn't have to be the nuts. Additionally, we actually block K pretty well, making those hands much more unlikely.
What is maybe more important about this hand is the Tilt Question. Why does the snapjam tilt you? Are you like "omg, this idiot, plays so bad, I could have bluffed, lol zomg?" or similar. Do you feel, like you got "beaten" or a "bad play was rewarded?". Did you feel entitled to the pot, when you had this really big hand on the turn and then this guy had the audacity to snapjam his boat in your face after sucking out?
Well. There is no reason for it whatsoever. Preflop can be discussed, but it's not
a huge difference, I think. Hero played his hand well and should be happy, that he is facing Villains, who a) call potsized raises with 20% and b) telegraph their handstrength making for easy folds, reducing their implied odds to 0.