PokerStars, Omaha Pot Limit - $0.50/$1.00 - 5 players
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UTG: $139.21 (139 bb)
CO (Hero): $100.00 (100 bb)
BU: $127.86 (128 bb)
SB: $95.68 (96 bb)
BB: $520.72 (521 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($1.50) Hero is CO with K♠ 9♦ 5♦ J♠
1 fold, Hero raises to $3.50, 2 players fold, BB calls $2.50

Flop: ($7.50) 8♠ 6♣ 2♦ (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $6.05, BB calls $6.05

Turn: ($19.60) 2♥ (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $15, BB calls $15

River: ($49.60) 3♦ (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $28, BB calls $28




Op is very loose aggro like 60/40 with 10 3bet, 15 squeeze....
Three barrel, i thought with the straight missing, and the duece paired i get only called by aces or kings, and he is so active he would have popped them pre.

so yeah, i dont see what he has to call me with? Ive been playing a 30/20 on this table, with 55 cbet, 75 tcbet. people just fold too much to double barrels.
but is that enough for a light call for op?

so yeah... good spot, bad spot?

cheers guys

Seems okay some of the time

give up on the river. he's not going to call your turn bet out of position on a paired board with a draw (unless he's terrible or he has a decent read on you) - he's not getting correct odds and could be drawing dead already.

therefore, highly likely he has a made hand after he calls turn. you might be lucky and get him to fold something like QQxx, but more likely he has a full house/trips and is calling.

You are bluffing the wrong board - that board doesn't hit your range and you have no relevant blockers - try it with A high boards - as 862 is better for the cold caller and so are KQx boards. If you want to bluff - try attacking A high boards and boards where you block the nuts.

I don't think triple barreling here against this guy is a great idea, but if you're going to do it, you're better off going small on the turn and big on the river. The 42 BB you bet over the turn and river here would have been better allocated betting 7 on the turn and potting the river. As played you end up with him having a lot of 2x and KK in his river range and not so much 8x, 6x, 99-QQ, and busted draws.

thank you! i was also wondering about that.

in play i didnt do it because i thought betting small with intention of bombing the river looks even less credible. i figuered a 2 wouldnt fold anyway but i was hopeing i could get rid of pairs, i mean if i had aces i would bet the same way..

but river pots also are scary even if the line is weird, so thats probably the better play!

yeah but it doenst hit him either, for anything substantial anyways. and if he spiked 8s or something he'll raise me and i just fold.

on the flop i figuered i have like 2/3s of the deck as outs for a second barrel, with two backdoor flush draws, couple overs, gutshot... the deuce i didnt even consider but it looked like a good card for my range, better than lets say a 3,4,5,6,7,8,9,T would. so i decided to go for the double barrel.

as far as attacking more boards that look like my range is concerned, i do that. but here my thinking was "this hits no one and my range is stronger than yours, surely you must see that and fold"

Personally as villain I would check raise this type flop (vs particular reg villains and obviously just folding vs fish) with a lot hands and only fold the absolute worst of my range - 7733 - TT33 as I know this board is generally bad for the pre flop raiser. If he calls I probably tread lightly.

As for a hand like 8879 that's an obvious check call - I wouldn't be raising pocket 8's as much but I think I only play like this if i'm really dialed in, sometimes I just auto pilot.

Why are we trying to run 3-barrel bluffs against a sticky maniac w/ garbage equity? Seems contradictory to me.

Your betsizing is what went wrong in this hand as opposed to the idea of a 3 barrel. We have position and a fairly wide range from the CO so we should be c-betting smaller particularly on a dry board like this. When the turn pairs the 2 it's again a spot where a smaller bet is going to be best for our range because it's hard to continue as villain with many hands because his 2 pair outs are no longer good vs an overpair.

On the river I think 2 bet-sizes are possible. Either very big or very small. This is because it's unlikely he's folding river with any hand he called the turn against a medium sized bet unless he had a wrap. So our bet-size of medium doesn't achieve anything - we should be betting 80% - pot or just 1/4-1/3 repping an overpair and hoping to fold a missed SD.

From my experience playing low limit PLO online, on dry boards the way to go is to cbet quite small (like 40% of pot) on dry boards like these. When it pairs, I always fire another barrel - but a small one, like 30-35% or so. After all, our overpair just outdrew top two and we will get thin value from worse hands when we have something decent/semi-decent.

And on the river we can then go big, like 80% of pot. Big river bets scare people in low stakes PLO games, but not if they previously have called big flop and turn bets and feel committed.

Bad because you have no back door draws to continue on and if you bluff this hand, I suspect you are way over bluffing this spot.