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PLO100 Aces + Nut Flush Blocker 3-way in 3-bet Pot PLO100 Aces + Nut Flush Blocker 3-way in 3-bet Pot

07-11-2018 , 02:38 PM
Sorry, posting from my phone and from my memory, so stack sizes are estimated.


What do you think Hero should do on the turn? Should Hero be continuation betting on this board 3-way?

PLO100
6-max
100BB Effective

UTG Opens 3.5BB, MP Cold Calls, Hero 3-bets Full Pot w/ AQA3

UTG Calls, MP Calls.

Flop: JT2

Hero flops Over pair with Nut Flush Draw Blocker and Gutshot.

Checked to Hero. Hero Bets 2/3 Pot. UTG Calls. MP Folds.

Turn: JT26

A little more than a Pot Sized Bet remains.

Should Hero always jam here on the turn? Is this flop always a continuation bet? Is 2/3 pot a good continuation bet size?

UTG is competent, MP is Loose Passive, Hero is probably seen as TAG.


Thank you all for taking the time to read.

Last edited by HUMBLE.; 07-11-2018 at 02:49 PM.
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07-11-2018 , 03:12 PM
think i bet closer to half pot OTF multiway but not too sure about the sizing there. if these were very regular regs then i'd pay a lot more attention for balance. against mostly randoms i'm gonna do what feels best in a vacuum.

if it goes bet > jam > jam then you can fold. if it goes bet > call > jam, i'm folding. if it goes bet > fold > jam i'm pretty sure you gotta go with it.

i threw some basic ranges together on PPT and you're 47% against 2p/sets/overpair+FD/flush draws/straight draws (including pair + gutter type stuff). i'm no wiz with PPT but i don't think this spot requires all that much precision in the calculator.

but yeah i pot turn. 6s doesn't really change anything and the guy is still drawing. his hand strength will be stronger than normal given he called your CB with one guy left, but again, 6s is kinda blank so just pot.


also with worse aces i wouldn't be cbetting this flop.
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07-11-2018 , 03:18 PM
Were there only 3 people sitting at the table? I'm curious because if it's 6 handed versus only 3 people sitting I'm thinking this changes ranges which would be relevant to post flop play.

My thought is when UTG checks the turn and there's a PSB left he's going to be able to play correctly towards a turn PSB given the blank turn. It doesn't complete any flush or potential straight draws. Sets are raising you on the flop and I gotta think JTxx does too. It seems that the bottom of your value range is going to be overpairs like what you have. You can have some sets as well. Given you have the Ah you could have some big draws with AKQx with hearts.

All that said I suppose a jam isn't bad. You can deny equity to backdoor spades and you have outs versus two pair such as a K 6 2 river. I guess I wonder how betting smaller on the flop changes the dynamic of the turn play. It gives your opponent better odds towards draws but it also allows them the chance to make more mistakes with hands you dominate. However holding the Ah and a Q blocker I almost like a 1/2 sized pot bet on the flop or even smaller. Of course that could be a horrible decision as well, I really don't know. My PLO status is n00b
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07-11-2018 , 09:38 PM
It was a full table, 6 players total.
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07-12-2018 , 02:57 PM
I think this texture is not too good for Hero given UTG and MP both have a bunch of TT, JJ in their range, not to mention oodles of other types of equity.

My approach in such spots is to have a LOW c-betting frequency. Once you have an idea of your frequency, it gives you an idea of what sizing to use. Since we are not betting that often, I think I go 75-85% to set up a turn shove on non straight completing cards. This sizing allows us to deny a little bit more equity than 50-66%.

In terms of blocker effects, having the Ah might make bet/call off a little worse, but I think the overall effect is minor (could be wrong?).

And yes definitely always jamming turn on double fd board.
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07-17-2018 , 01:09 AM
Is Hero in the blinds or IP ?
I check this flop like %70 of the time OOP.
If IP I think I probably play it the same way you did .
We block some of the Broadway draws villain could have
so maybe KK, JT 2pr 89JT type hand a good range for him . The flush coming may work in our favor so I prob bomb any turn card that is not a non-heart J,T,Q,8,9

Last edited by tx_noodlelRiver; 07-17-2018 at 01:17 AM.
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