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PLO10: Pre-flop 3-betting spots (4 hands) PLO10: Pre-flop 3-betting spots (4 hands)

07-29-2017 , 07:51 PM
Edit: I have been working on my preflop hand selection and decision making. I believe I am missing a lot of spots where I should be more aggressive pre-flop.

Hand #1: Missed 3-bet with AKKx
Winning Poker Network (Yatahay) - $0.10 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: 149.7 BB (VPIP: 23.39, PFR: 15.93, 3Bet Preflop: 4.80, Hands: 300)
Hero (BTN): 109.5 BB
SB: 100 BB (VPIP: 38.46, PFR: 24.48, 3Bet Preflop: 7.48, Hands: 290)
BB: 94.2 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 2)
UTG: 109.6 BB (VPIP: 23.33, PFR: 3.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 30)
MP: 70.8 BB (VPIP: 39.58, PFR: 27.66, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 52)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 4 K K A

UTG raises to 3.5 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 3.5 BB, SB calls 3 BB, fold

Flop: (11.5 BB, 3 players) 9 3 2
SB checks, UTG bets 10 BB, Hero calls 10 BB, SB calls 10 BB

Turn: (41.5 BB, 3 players) 8
SB checks, UTG bets 39.5 BB, Hero fold
I didn't 3-bet this because I failed to take note of the sample size on the UTG player. I saw the 3% PFR and figured he was probably one of the nits who only raises AAxx hands. But, with AKK4ds I think this probably should have been a 3-bet. I block many of his AAxx combinations, and if I get 4-bet, I can just fold. As it played out, I called the flop bet because I wasn't sure where I was at. I then folded the turn because I wasn't closing the action and I was drawing pretty slim and not to the nuts.

Hand #2: Single suited rundown with a top-gap, 3-bet OOP against loose aggressive button.
Winning Poker Network (Yatahay) - $0.10 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 162.5 BB (VPIP: 22.78, PFR: 15.51, 3Bet Preflop: 4.55, Hands: 322)
Hero (BB): 100.7 BB
UTG: 100 BB (VPIP: 36.36, PFR: 23.05, 3Bet Preflop: 7.08, Hands: 312)
MP: 100 BB (VPIP: 20.83, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 24)
CO: 186.6 BB (VPIP: 35.29, PFR: 17.65, 3Bet Preflop: 5.56, Hands: 52)
BTN: 79.4 BB (VPIP: 39.13, PFR: 23.53, 3Bet Preflop: 5.00, Hands: 74)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 8 T Q 9

fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 3 BB, fold, Hero raises to 9 BB, BTN calls 6 BB

Flop: (18.5 BB, 2 players) Q K A
Hero bets 12 BB
The button is attempting to steal at every opportunity. I have been giving up my blinds, mostly because I have been holding pure trash. This hand isn't perfect, but I decide to put a little pressure on the button as he doesn't stand to have a good hand here with as wide as he is opening. He flats, and I c-bet a flop that should hit me harder than him. I probably should have c-bet a little less, as I intend to bet/fold.

Hand #3: AQQ5 single suited to the Q.
Winning Poker Network (Yatahay) - $0.10 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 4 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 195.7 BB (VPIP: 22.58, PFR: 15.84, 3Bet Preflop: 4.23, Hands: 347)
Hero (BB): 100 BB
CO: 87 BB (VPIP: 36.96, PFR: 28.26, 3Bet Preflop: 9.09, Hands: 49)
BTN: 123.9 BB (VPIP: 40.86, PFR: 23.91, 3Bet Preflop: 9.38, Hands: 99)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 5 A Q Q

fold, BTN raises to 3.5 BB, SB calls 3 BB, Hero calls 2.5 BB
This one I am not so sure about if it is a 3-bet or not. I really don't have a whole lot. But, it feels like weak poker to call and try and flop the nuts. I considered it, strongly, because the button raised first in 88% of the time on his button. So, his range should be pretty weak. I didn't pull the trigger because he'd never folded to a 3-bet after raising, and I would be playing an inflated pot out of position and possibly 3-way with this junky big pair. Again, small sample size, so maybe I am giving too much credit to his stats, but I definitely feel this player was raising the hell out of his button. This is the same player as hand #2, where I did 3-bet.

Hand #4: Broadway run down with a suited ace in position
Winning Poker Network (Yatahay) - $0.10 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP: 162 BB (VPIP: 22.57, PFR: 15.36, 3Bet Preflop: 4.48, Hands: 325)
Hero (CO): 108.8 BB
BTN: 100 BB (VPIP: 36.01, PFR: 22.83, 3Bet Preflop: 7.02, Hands: 315)
SB: 102 BB (VPIP: 23.08, PFR: 19.23, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 27)
BB: 186.6 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 5.26, Hands: 55)
UTG: 70.4 BB (VPIP: 38.89, PFR: 23.94, 3Bet Preflop: 4.76, Hands: 77)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K T J A

UTG raises to 3.5 BB, fold, Hero calls 3.5 BB, fold, fold, BB calls 2.5 BB

Flop: (11 BB, 3 players) 3 3 7
BB checks, UTG bets 3.5 BB, Hero fold
This one might be a call behind, because it is nutty and plays well multiway. I did think of 3-betting the UTG open, but decided to play this for a single raise in position. The flop sucks, and I don't have anything. I suppose I could float, but I represent nothing and have no draw. So, I just give it up.
PLO10: Pre-flop 3-betting spots (4 hands) Quote
07-29-2017 , 11:37 PM
All hands are fine for a call or 3bet depending on the situation. AQQ is the loosest one and w0uld only do it in very specific situations
PLO10: Pre-flop 3-betting spots (4 hands) Quote
07-30-2017 , 04:21 AM
Hand 1: easy 3bet
Hand 2: I prefer a call
Hand 3: Looks good
Hand 4: Usually 3betting here


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PLO10: Pre-flop 3-betting spots (4 hands) Quote
07-30-2017 , 10:43 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimbotbs
Hand 1: easy 3bet
Is this still a 3-bet if the UTG player had a PFR of 3% over 1,500 hands? There are these people at the PLO tables for these stakes. They seem to be raising only AAxx hands and maybe good KKxx hands. If that is the case, then I have a hand that doesn't play very well against them. I know that this specific hand there are fewer combos of both those types of hands.
PLO10: Pre-flop 3-betting spots (4 hands) Quote
07-30-2017 , 11:05 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by frob23
Is this still a 3-bet if the UTG player had a PFR of 3% over 1,500 hands? There are these people at the PLO tables for these stakes. They seem to be raising only AAxx hands and maybe good KKxx hands. If that is the case, then I have a hand that doesn't play very well against them. I know that this specific hand there are fewer combos of both those types of hands.
AKK does better against a wide 3bet range as a 4bet. Obv you wouldnt be 3/4betting this vs. 3%, because 3% is only AA
PLO10: Pre-flop 3-betting spots (4 hands) Quote
07-30-2017 , 11:26 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by frob23
Is this still a 3-bet if the UTG player had a PFR of 3% over 1,500 hands?
Probably not.
PLO10: Pre-flop 3-betting spots (4 hands) Quote
07-30-2017 , 02:01 PM
Yeah, I figured. I need to pay more attention to sample size. That's the reason I didn't 3-bet in that hand, because he had a 3% PFR. In the heat of the moment, I didn't recognize that he only had 30 hands, so the stat was heavily influenced by the hands he had been dealt. This player's PFR was approaching 11% over a larger sample size. So, I would have 3-bet, if I knew that. It was just a mistake of using stats incorrectly.

I love the people with large numbers of hands and 2-3% PFRs. Because, it means I can play them with marked Aces in high SPR situations.
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