Any tips on how to go about studying this spot would also be appreciated. I assume I should rip here but how do I figure out at what SPR I shouldn't rip? I'm a NLHE pro and extreme PLO novice.

8 handed home game on an app. Hero is the effective stack with $975

It's very very unlikely anyone behind me is flatting pre with aces. I haven't seen this play yet from them after several sessions.

UTG straddles

I open AsKsKh9c+1 to $15

+2 who 3 bets literally 100% of hands makes it $50
LJ who will flat about 30% of hands in this spot calls
BU who will flat about 20% of hands in this spot calls
Straddle who will flat about 15% of hands in this spot calls

I repot to $315 and everyone besides LJ calls.

Pot: $1315

I have $657 behind.

Flop:8c5d9s

I rip it.

Is this a jam? At what SPR is this not a jam?

I ran my equity vs their ranges in equilab. If I give them the top 15%, 20%, and 100% of hands, excluding the top 3% of hands, I have 26.56% equity on the flop. So it's not an awful flop, but definitely a below average one and I could just be drawing horrendously.

This is the sort of situation where the variance is sky-high and equity return low, such that your roll needs to be gigantic to make it worthwhile. Avoiding big losses is of a benefit because it can be a pain in the a$$ to settle on these apps while worrying that you wouldn't be getting paid if you won a big sum.

You're also highly likely, given the above players, to be getting far, far better spots on a regular basis, so I'd put the minimum roll requirements for you to be getting this in at ~$500k.

Well, you did try to get into a 2000bb 5way all in with a tiny edge and now you're sort of there

(I'm not saying anything regarding wether this is a gii or not, neither otf or pre, I'm just saying you kind of tried really hard to get into this exact spot)

edit: I shouldn't say tiny edge btw, since your repot pre probably makes like 50bb or something, but you know what I'm saying.

Should I just open limp and then just flat when the guy on my left inevitably raises?

I think just calling the 3b and getting to play a big deep multiway pot with a hand that flops super powerful nuts is the best course of action. But maybe I'm just results oriented from seeing what the flop was

Preflop was great.

That’s a terrible flop and it would be hard to move opponents off of hands. Small chance of improving.

I would probably check-fold to any bet.

And what are the minimum roll requirements for getting 150bb in pre. and then check folding a bunch with less than ½ pot behind?

I understand this is a shitty spot, and you are going to have to throw a stupid amount of bb in and hope ... but I also think that if someone posted this as an online hand where hero raise limpers to 10bb and gets to a flop with 45bb in it and 20bb behind people wouldn't be talking about check/folding like that's the only option, even with this flop.

Esp. given we have the 9 I probably just shove and then snap leave when I lose. The mental pain will be strong, but it probably won't be anywhere near as bad as seeing a showdown you would have won if you x/f.

As Loctus said the right move is probably to calm down pre. (I've def. played in maniac live PLO games where my 4bet range was empty because I didn't want to do flips for 4000bb pots).

That's a different question. I don't know. I do know that in the game conditions as described I play preflop the same, because against players this bad, we're gaining tremendous EV. Certainly far more than we gain by calling here.

If this were an online spot, people would be advocating for a fold quicker than (insert wittiness here).

Making plays to avoid painful outcomes is not a good way to go. When you make whatever play you make, if you're aware there might be a lot of pain, make peace with that pain before you make the play. If you're even snap-leaving when you lose, then that's a whole boatload of EV you're missing out on by losing and not reloading.

As played i assume jam on flop is correct.

As for how to study this spot, I think it should mostly be around planning what pot sizes you think are most profitable vs these opponents (contingent on number of opponents seeing a flop) from different positions.

This could mean using smaller-than pot raises in some situations.

As you learn more about plo hand strength overall it is likely you will find ways to reduce the variance around how you play this hand. Studying how to play it gto vs 3! And 4!. Understanding the best lines to realize equity and get value from oop, etc. Spend time on the simulators showing the equities with your exact hand in 3way, 4way and 5way scenarios.

If you spend time constructing a strong range in this spot (for these opponents) you may be surprised how many non-paired hands you can jam profitably here and qualify which kkxx hands are best to play more agressively.

Study being able to answer whether having the a blocker is a good or bad thing.

Having the A blocker is definitely a good thing.

The question is more about whether having the 9 blocker is good or not.

A lot of people preflop would vary their betsizing away from pot, for some good reasons. I don't hate it but I wouldn't do it myself. Partly because, if it's awkward for you, it's awkward for them too, and while there's advantage to be gained being a good player in position in low spr situations, bad players are unlikely to realize that advantage very well, so really, you're taking advantage of their bad decisions, just in a bigger pot, which is advantageous for you.