I am reading PLO From Scratch and The Big Play Strategy by Hwang. Both advocate pot sized bets when betting but when I see YouTube content, in particular JNandez I see different sizings being used.

Is the thinking on bet sizing headed towards GTO sizings like NLHE?

You didn't mention if you were talking about pre-flop or post-flop. I am going to assume you mean post-flop. Scratch and BPS were written a long time ago but have held up very well. Also BPS was written mostly about live games. But to answer your question, yes now players use several sizing. For example, the go to sizing on a paired flop is usually 1/2 pot. Search around with newer material for bet size suggestions and try a few different ones out.

Yes I was referring to post flop.

bet sizings highly depend, like mentioned before, on board textures and -dynamics. before thinking too much about betsizings you could read about characterizing board textures first and you will notice real quick why you can bet less than pot on a K83r board for example. for a good read on betting strategies on different boards i recommend the book mastering pot limit omaha by okolowitz and taschner. its not really year 2020 but it might give you a better understanding than the other books.

personally i think on nano and microstakes you can achieve a lot by quite randomly adjusting betsizes to your opponents and your equity...most people dont really notice if you dont have balanced and standardized sizings and wont exploit you.
i also read somewhere on this forum that even some higher stakes players start to develop own betsizings that differ from the modern standard to confuse people and to make it harder to interpret their lines. but i dont know how successful this strategy is for them.

I'm definitely all for this. I do it in NLHE. Sizings are standard as far as 1/2, 2/3, 1.5 etc but I may 1.5 in a spot a lot of players would 1/2. It's all opponent based, texture, and situation based. I have a station in a hand with a dry texture that may be tilted after losing a few hands I'll go bigger on all streets if I feel I am ahead. Just a random example.

I'm more interested in bet sizing theory to understand my opponents better. Understanding what their bets mean and how they would be interpreting mine. Definitely not a cookie cutter advocate.

Hwangs main base argument of his first book was playing nuted hands for stacks. His strategy would be most optimal if you play a disciplined, tight starting hand strategy. For example, you hold QJT7 and your opponent holds JT87/ flop is 98T. You both have a straight but you're free rolling villain because you have the Q. To put villain all in by the river, it's only possible if you make pot sized bets on all streets.

That is not an example of freerolling. KQJ2 vs QJ23 on the same board is an example of freerolling. In your example you've got villain crushed, he is drawing to four outs to boat up and three outs to chop.

You are absolutely right. I rather messed that up, I wanted to edit the post but it was too late.
But I hope the point I wanted to make made sense.

After all, I'm an expert! I'm up 38 bucks after a month of play!!

Or if?

Villain 9876r
Hero Ah9h76

Flop comes Jh Ts 8h

You both have the straight but you got the flush redraw.

Hi Lozgod, yes, that's a valid point. It's always recommended that you play suited cards in plo, although you have to be very careful without the ace when drawing to a flush in plo. But what pokerplayinggamble was getting at as far as a plo freeroll goes is the following.

The flop is 8 9 T
A sucker has Q J xx . He thinks he has the nuts, and he does at the moment. But, you have Q J K x. That's actually what a freeroll in plo means. You both have the nuts straight but if a Q or a J hits on the Turn or the River, you make a K high straight and the sucker still has the Queens high straight! That's a true plo freeroll.
Of course, Hwang, bless his soul, was talking about live full ring games.
Should we loosen up our standards in online 6 max? probably, but someone else, like pokerplayinggamble, can answer that better than me, I'm a noob like you.

By the way, I saw you're playing 5plo(2/5).
I don't know if you moved up recently but I have. I'm playing 5/10 since a couple of days.
Fwiw, 5 is a total waste. Although I have played some online plo mtt 's years ago, and once a live sit n go, otherwise my plo experience outside of study was limited. I needed to get a feel for the game again.
What hands play best etc, etc.
Since I got that somewhat out of the way, I moved up to 5/10.
2/5 was just a bore. The money didn't mean anything to me, it was getting real boring. I was spewing because it was like play money.
And that's how villains play. You 3bet with AAxx and the whole table calls.
Move up to 10plo as soon as possible. The players aren't any better.
That's my 2 cents for what it's worth.

Exactly, the same hand but with redraws. Technically villain also has a runner runner boat redraw, although it is obviously a lot less valuable than a flush which will complete roughly 38% of the time by the river.

Yeah, I am finding I can put more volume in NLHE to build this initial BR. The players are so bad and will give you their money. PLO seems like the same at these levels but with a lot more variance so right now I am doing more HE volume for BR growth and moving up in stakes and playing PLO to learn the game better.

Your bet sizing should match the strength of your range.

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