Puyo - Cool story bro.

And nice brag too

I havent played the game in almost a year, but what sticks out to me is that people are playing way too tight from the button and CO and too loose in the blinds.

The SB is the worst position in PLO and even 1/2bb is not good enough odds for most hands. Given the nut-oriented game play at SSPLO, you cant extract value from hands like KsXs oop, TTxx-QQxx (in case you flop a set), even weak rundowns are crap in most cases from the blinds, because you cant take advantage of their potential if the pot is small.

Since we got a lot of NL converts, 3betting from the blinds is not the same in PLO as it is in NL. People barely fold IP to 3bets, so increasing the pot size with positional disadvantage is only profitable if you got a hand that can flop well and play pretty much perfectly on the flop.

To sum it up, play a lot more from the late position, even if that means limping behind with hands like AsXs, good 3 card rundowns, etc.
You really need to take advantage of position, because it enables you to represent a wider range. If you got a flush draw and the straight hits, you can rep it in position, oop he will most-likely check behind and you cant really control what he does on the river.
Putting pressure on people on two streets is a lot easier than on one street.

So again, I havent played the game in almost a year, I am definitely rusty and are not on top of recent changes, but playing 30/25 from the button is way too tight.

I already know that I'm too loose at SB.
Do you think that I could 3bet a little more?

3bet more, raise more from late position.
The worst position has the highest VPIP, thats burning money.

TY

wow, really impressive. could y share your fold to cbet on the flop/turn/river please? thanx

Prety loose and agresive game.
It seem to be you read your opponent like open book Is this 6 max HUP maybe?
What level is this 50 PLO?

When I make my first 10k hand I will post here.

sincerely,

1. sure, increase your 3bet %
2. winnings line is most important. red line can't pay for bottles and models


Maybe I'm being levelled but you're winning about 40bb/100 and you're hoping to further improve? You're fooling yourself you think you can sustain such a high win rate at 6m.

Enjoy the heater while it lasts. Come back for stats advice when you have an actual sample size.

thank you man

I only came back to PLO recently. I broke even over a pretty big sample at PLO2 and I only started winning when I forced myself to call a lot less on bad river cards.

I´m surprised my stats are sooo tight as I 3-bet quite a bit, both in and out of position, and I also still tilt a lot. I play 9 tables most of the time.

Any thoughts on my stats and how I can improve my game?

My W$SD% is very low.
I am wondering if im doing something crazy bad, or is it possible to run superbad for many hands?

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It might help if you include EV in your stats.

That said, I somehow doubt you ran 14bb/100 below EV over 20.000 hands.

No, according to EVbb/100 i should be losing 20bb/100. I was wondering aboute the W$SD% stat. I think it should be impossible to win that little at sd.

This sounds self-explanatory to me: You go to showdown with bad/2nd best cards way too often, hence losing at massive rates. I´m not an expert, but it seems obvious you have huge leaks when it comes to river play.

I know it's not quite the 10k hands that the OP asks for... but I can't afford to keep playing if I'm losing. I need to fix whatever is broken ASAP.

First 5k hands of HU plo, all of it plo50(I know it should be 10k, but I think this might save me more money than anger anyone else)

Just started playing with filters, found this
Called river bet:

So if I'm reading this right if I folded every river bet I'd have 680$ more?
How huge of a leak is this? I realize it's not likely to be positive with my playing style???

Hey! Me first punk! You're at least showing a profit!

J/k. I don't play HU though so I've got nothing to contribute.

I figured it was alright since it's been a few days

You play waaaay too high if you come close to busto after losing less than 40 buy-ins. Re: Stats, both your SB and BTN stats look unreal. On average, you would have lost less from SB by just folding every single hand from that positon. Also, while running really bad, you were EV-negative from the BTN. This should be virtually impossible.

I´m not an expert (I actually play lower than you, see my post above), but it seems obvious you must have huge leaks.

I decided to give PLO a try after dabbling in play money games for a while and reading Slowhabit's ebook and this forum. But it simply hasn't been working out at the .02/.05 tables. I suspect one major leak is being too aggressive as indicated by my really high AF. I'm also at a complete loss as to how the button is my 2nd worst position. Then there's my plunging red line. Help would really be appreciated.

I'm in the same boat as you, so take my advice with a grain of salt. Judging by your cbet % on all streets, it appears to me that you may be a bit more aggressive than necessary, although your w$sd stat seems high enough, so that kind of throws me off.

Secondly your vpip from the sb is only behind your button, and your pfr from that same position is only ahead of your bb. What that indicates to me is that you're calling way too much from the sb. Also notice your wtsd% from the sb, which is lower than all your other stats. This means you're playing looser in the worst position possible, not tighter.

Thirdly, your red line is going to plunge at the micro limits. People don't fold enough, and so you value bet all the way to the river, and when you win that pot it gets added to your sd winnings and not your non sd winnings. You should be folding the worst hand enough that it's going to steadily drop, most peoples do at the micros, don't sweat that.

So I've only been playing .01/.02 PLO for a month, and I know it's lolsamplesize and all that, but last month (perhaps I was on a heater) I was doing pretty damned well, and this month I'm doing pretty ****ty, and my stats haven't changed pretty much at all. For the love of god help.

March Stats







April Stats






As you can see, they haven't changed all that much.


March Graph





April Graph





But my graphs sure have. Any insight?

Variance.

And lolAprilSamplesize. Post hands, grunch threads, watch videos, review your play, etc. If you work it, the results will come.

I'm certainly hoping so, it feels like I'm missing 20 outters and others are hitting 8 outters way more often than should be happening. I also must admit that this is causing me to tilt and thusly play more call stationy than I should be, but I'm working on it and controlling it a bit more than I used to at least.

Given the current date, I've played tons more in April than I had at this point in March, I'm trying to get used to putting in volume while staying profitable.

I'll continue to work at it, but boy have I done a whole lot of reading so far.

Thanks.