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04-14-2012 , 01:11 PM
how do i post HH in this forum, i have PT4 how do i pull them out to post ?
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04-14-2012 , 01:45 PM
in HEM, u select the hand from the grid, right-click and "choose copy hands to clip-board". Then you paste them to the 2+2 HH converter, which can be used while writing a post here. I'd imagine it's very similar in PT4
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04-14-2012 , 01:55 PM
ah ive found it, in PT4 you can export for 2+2 or text, but it seems there is always an error with either?
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04-14-2012 , 01:55 PM
PokerStars - $0.02 PL Hi (6 max) ZOOM - Omaha Hi - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): $3.86
SB: $10.56
BB: $3.01
UTG: $2.56
MP: $1.53
CO: $1.06

SB posts SB $0.01, BB posts BB $0.02

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.03) Hero has 6 A A 9

fold, MP calls $0.02, CO raises to $0.08, Hero raises to $0.27, SB raises to $0.93, fold, fold, CO raises to $1.06 and is all-in, Hero raises to $3.86 and is all-in, SB calls $2.93

Flop: ($8.82, 3 players) 4 5 Q

Turn: ($8.82, 3 players) 7

River: ($8.82, 3 players) 2

SB shows 5 A 2 A (Two Pair, Fives and Twos) (Pre 31%, Flop 58%, Turn 53%)
Hero shows 6 A A 9 (One Pair, Aces) (Pre 29%, Flop 28%, Turn 36%)
CO shows 8 9 T 9 (One Pair, Nines) (Pre 40%, Flop 14%, Turn 11%)
SB wins $8.52


OH i see i dont need to convert it, so, is the above STD then? Also what about this one below?

PokerStars - $0.02 PL Hi (6 max) ZOOM - Omaha Hi - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $2.00
SB: $2.05
BB: $1.75
Hero (UTG): $2.93
MP: $2.02
CO: $10.62

SB posts SB $0.01, BB posts BB $0.02

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.03) Hero has A T A J

Hero raises to $0.07, fold, CO calls $0.07, fold, SB calls $0.06, fold

Flop: ($0.23, 3 players) T K T
SB checks, Hero bets $0.14, CO calls $0.14, fold

Turn: ($0.51, 2 players) 2
Hero bets $0.40, CO raises to $1.69, Hero raises to $2.72 and is all-in, CO calls $1.03

River: ($5.95, 2 players) Q

Hero shows A T A J (Straight, Ace High) (Pre 66%, Flop 10%, Turn 5%)
CO shows 6 T K 3 (Full House, Tens full of Kings) (Pre 34%, Flop 90%, Turn 95%)
CO wins $5.74

Last edited by ThePressure; 04-14-2012 at 01:57 PM. Reason: excellent
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04-14-2012 , 02:07 PM


what am i doing wrong

I bluff alot i guess lol?
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04-14-2012 , 07:31 PM
Well your nonshowdowns are sloping quite badly, so I would guess that you don't bluff enough/you only bet once and then give up. Or you might call once yourself and then fold to the next bet.

But it's hard to say just from the graph. Stats would help a lot.

Last edited by SlimyF; 04-14-2012 at 07:37 PM.
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04-14-2012 , 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by SlimyF
Well your nonshowdowns are sloping quite badly, so I would guess that you don't bluff enough/you only bet once and then give up. Or you might call once yourself and then fold to the next bet.

But it's hard to say just from the graph. Stats would help a lot.


Over a 8k hands sample :S
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04-14-2012 , 08:14 PM
You're playing way too tight pre. You prob also should check your cbet % and fold to cbet.
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04-14-2012 , 08:18 PM
Will do. Tyvm for your quick and helpfully replies!
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04-15-2012 , 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by ItsmeMario


what am i doing wrong

I bluff alot i guess lol?
you're all in EV is going down so i would say you are getting on marginal situations, especially when you go AI you are on the negative side of EV. then you also fold a lot?
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04-19-2012 , 06:56 AM
Got a DC account. Any good videos i should watch?

Planning to watch Dj sensei not sure if there are others thats a "must"
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04-19-2012 , 02:38 PM
the vanessa selbst series is pretty good too.
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04-20-2012 , 05:48 PM
Hey guys.
Gotta learn a little PLO.
I play NLHE at stars, which I guess are rather bad for playing PLO - due to rakeback.
What site would you advice to learn PLO (I read that 200PLO+ is fine at stars, but that is too far lol)?
What RB offer should I choose (yea, I am a total RB noob, know nothing)
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04-24-2012 , 09:05 PM
BUMP (so i can find this again)

playing alot of full ring b&m recently. 5/5, very loose, moderately passive

three things that come up over and over again:

1) trips. bunch of cases and i have read hwang about under/over trips and under/over full house. but can i go with A7KQ on 775r. or will the one agressor post-flop from6 pre-flop always 75 or 55. and my 18 total outs aren't completely clean (pretty close though i'd think)

2) flop ace high straight. hwang has me totally paranoid about free rolls.... given you have AQ, what % of other AQxx are suited to JTKx single suited? hope terminology is right basically villain has same ace-high straight and free-roll to flush. thinking straight with full house redraw free roll requires very unique 4 card hands

3) i'm good pre-flop but is 2nd set recipe for disaster in loose full ring? say JJxx on KQx. can i assume player will have raised KKxx,pre-flop? obviously big problem with straightndraws too

thanks in advance! think i need to,learn pro poker tools. sorry for ipad typing
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05-12-2012 , 07:59 PM
HI, can anyone here please give me some advice as to the best PLO training site who currently makes new and good PLO vidoes regularly?

I have been looking for a while, but DC's contents have been drying up; no more Galfond at bluefire; not so sure about cardrunenrs.

Appreciate your comments.
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05-13-2012 , 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by ACEvivKING
It seems like it would take 5x longer to run 100$ into 2k+ playing PLO.
I could play 10nl with 300$ but if I had 300$ playing PLO I would be stuck grinding 4 PLO for another 50 BIs(500$ for 10PLO).
Is there any point in playing PLO in the nanos?
?
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05-14-2012 , 12:29 PM
Could someone please check out how many bb/100 they're getting raked at Ipoker PLO20 6-max? Wondering if it would be a good site with rb compared to Stars, Thanks.
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05-14-2012 , 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by lhj7362
Hey guys.
Gotta learn a little PLO.
I play NLHE at stars, which I guess are rather bad for playing PLO - due to rakeback.
What site would you advice to learn PLO (I read that 200PLO+ is fine at stars, but that is too far lol)?
What RB offer should I choose (yea, I am a total RB noob, know nothing)
Try to get an under-the-table RB deal for a euro site, some offers go up to 60%. you just gotto contact an affiliate and convince them of high volume. I think PLO100 should be fine at Stars RB-wise, but I'm no expert. Really depends on ur volume.

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Originally Posted by smbruin22
BUMP (so i can find this again)

playing alot of full ring b&m recently. 5/5, very loose, moderately passive

three things that come up over and over again:

1) trips. bunch of cases and i have read hwang about under/over trips and under/over full house. but can i go with A7KQ on 775r. or will the one agressor post-flop from6 pre-flop always 75 or 55. and my 18 total outs aren't completely clean (pretty close though i'd think)

2) flop ace high straight. hwang has me totally paranoid about free rolls.... given you have AQ, what % of other AQxx are suited to JTKx single suited? hope terminology is right basically villain has same ace-high straight and free-roll to flush. thinking straight with full house redraw free roll requires very unique 4 card hands

3) i'm good pre-flop but is 2nd set recipe for disaster in loose full ring? say JJxx on KQx. can i assume player will have raised KKxx,pre-flop? obviously big problem with straightndraws too

thanks in advance! think i need to,learn pro poker tools. sorry for ipad typing
1) I prefer calling down ip and v-betting river even unimproved when checked to. Not much value in raising vs a decent player, but really comes down to reads

2) getting freerolled with as strong a hand as broadway is not a major concern, but if there's a FD out, no reason to bloat the pot when really deep. Freerolling becomes an issue when u know ur not getting action from worse hands, like when playing a nitty reg with high SPR.

3) same thing as with broadway, depends on villain. Many players like to limp raggy big pairs from EP, so u shouldn't make too many assumptions about their range based on that.

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Originally Posted by nicktang
HI, can anyone here please give me some advice as to the best PLO training site who currently makes new and good PLO vidoes regularly?

I have been looking for a while, but DC's contents have been drying up; no more Galfond at bluefire; not so sure about cardrunenrs.

Appreciate your comments.
CR/ LearnedFromTV

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?
Playing nanos has the point of getting routine and seeing how hands play out, but not much point in terms of value.
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05-14-2012 , 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Osterror
Could someone please check out how many bb/100 they're getting raked at Ipoker PLO20 6-max? Wondering if it would be a good site with rb compared to Stars, Thanks.

Can't check myself, but this should be helpful:

http://www.firsttimepokerplayer.com/...ctures/#ipoker
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05-17-2012 , 04:02 PM
Any major or minor adjustments I need to make moving up to 50PLO, 6max from 25PLO? I play on Ongame
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05-17-2012 , 07:48 PM
Hi Guys (First Deposit)

I’ve just joined 2+2 and was after some advice surrounding my first deposit on PokerStars and getting started.

I feel I have a basic understanding of the fundamentals surrounding 6 max PLO and after reading a few PLO books, keeping up to date on the forums, joining DeucesCracked and running up 1m play money chips, (lol) I feel I am now ready to make my first deposit and am serious about building a roll and developing my game.


I was thinking about depositing around $350 and starting at $0.10/0.25 This means I have 14 buy ins. Does this sound like a sensible plan and good bankroll management? What is the current stake of $0.10/0.25 6 max PLO? What are the games like at these stakes? What are other peoples experiences about playing at these stakes? I was thinking about starting lower but there comes a point where winning/losing a few cents per hour almost isn’t worth my time. Any general advice on getting started for real would be greatly appreciated..


Hadig
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05-18-2012 , 04:34 AM
Hello all. How many vpps/hand are people getting at plo100 Zoom?
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05-18-2012 , 05:39 AM
There's a Zoom-thread, you'll prob get more answers there
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05-18-2012 , 05:53 AM
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Originally Posted by HadigLey

I was thinking about depositing around $350 and starting at $0.10/0.25 This means I have 14 buy ins. Does this sound like a sensible plan and good bankroll management? What is the current stake of $0.10/0.25 6 max PLO? What are the games like at these stakes? What are other peoples experiences about playing at these stakes? I was thinking about starting lower but there comes a point where winning/losing a few cents per hour almost isn’t worth my time. Any general advice on getting started for real would be greatly appreciated..


Hadig
Well, 14BI at PLO25, isn't exactly good BRM, but if u don't mind depositing again in a couple weeks, then it's fine. If you do mind, I suggest starting at PLO10, you'll run it up soon enough. When you got 1250(50BI), you can move up to PLO25, after that try to make it at least 100BI. The higher the stakes, the steeper the swings.

Wazz introduced a good guide line for those who wanna go pro, 250BI + 6 months living expenses.
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05-20-2012 , 09:48 PM
Hi

Just started playing PLO50 few weeks ago and i have played about 15k hands. I am using Holdem Manager 2. Which stats and graphs should i study and observe? Quite newbie with any of these manager softwares.

Thanks,
CS108
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