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06-16-2020 , 02:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bremen
Hello!

I am learning PLO now that I have access to legal online poker (PA). I had to share this hand although it isn't really worth a post imo

    PokerStars - $0.10 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 6 players
    Hand converted by Holdem Manager 3

    BB: $14.43 (144.3 bb)
    UTG: $22.32 (223.2 bb)
    MP: $9.42 (94.2 bb)
    CO: $8.74 (87.4 bb)
    Hero (BTN): $4.26 (42.6 bb)
    SB: $13.48 (134.8 bb)

    SB posts $0.05, BB posts $0.10

    Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has T A J 9
    UTG calls $0.10, MP calls $0.10, fold, Hero raises to $0.55, fold, BB calls $0.45, UTG calls $0.45, MP calls $0.45

    Flop: ($2.25, 4 players) Q K 5
    BB checks, UTG checks, MP bets $0.20, Hero raises to $2.74, 2 folds, MP calls $2.54

    I raised hoping to force out diamond draws and improve my outs, also these games are so passive I'll be able to take a free card on the turn if I wish. Realistically people don't fold enough and this is spew imo

    Turn: ($7.73, 2 players) Q
    MP bets $0.90, Hero raises to $0.97 and is all-in, fold

    uh? I guess the games are good.

    Results: $9.53 pot ($0.48 rake)
    Final Board: Q K 5 Q

    Hero wins $9.05
    Flop raise is too optimistic.
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    07-22-2020 , 07:23 AM
    Hi,
    I wonder where to play PLO micro stakes, is there alternative for Poker Stars?
    Im looking for site with decent traffic and decent rb
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    07-28-2020 , 02:00 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by PLOzilla
    Hi,
    I wonder where to play PLO micro stakes, is there alternative for Poker Stars?
    Im looking for site with decent traffic and decent rb
    guess GGpoker is your option.
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    08-14-2020 , 01:48 PM
    I am thinking about moving to PLO after a somewhat long poker break (4 years).

    However, it feels very weird to play at PLO2 with several thousand BIs in my BR (I used to play NL100).

    Any advice about what stake I should start from? I don't mind losing some to learn some.
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    08-16-2020 , 10:47 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by BrotherLove9
    I am thinking about moving to PLO after a somewhat long poker break (4 years).

    However, it feels very weird to play at PLO2 with several thousand BIs in my BR (I used to play NL100).

    Any advice about what stake I should start from? I don't mind losing some to learn some.
    I'll answer my own question: PLO25.
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    08-19-2020 , 07:04 AM
    PokerStars - $0.02 PL Hi FAST (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 6 players
    Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

    Hero (BTN): 539.5 BB
    SB: 130 BB
    BB: 181 BB
    UTG: 148 BB
    MP: 100.5 BB
    CO: 1598.5 BB

    SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

    Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has T T 7 8

    fold, MP raises to 3.5 BB, fold, Hero calls 3.5 BB, fold, fold

    Flop: (8.5 BB, 2 players) 3 9 4
    MP bets 3 BB, fold

    MP wins 8 BB




    Hi,

    I think my call is pretty good. Flop game though, i didnt have a clue that im doing.
    i think mp range is really not hitting the board very strongly. Might have over pair most of the time? Im scared of flush ofc but i think its rare at headsup situations.

    What do you think, would call it and continue to turn? I think if mp would have check the turn id attacked 75% pot?
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    08-25-2020 , 06:22 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by BrotherLove9
    I'll answer my own question: PLO25.
    I would recommend PLO 10 for the transition. Sometimes you can go down 20BI by doing everything right. From experience stars 25 vs 10 pool is also a big skill difference.
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    08-25-2020 , 11:42 PM
    any online links for 5card plo strategy?
    or hwang's 4 card plo book still applies?
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    09-07-2020 , 12:17 PM
    6-max PLO10. Hero has $5.00 and Villain has Hero covered.

    Hero opens HJ with A9A7. Villain defends BB.

    Flop ($0.75): 753

    Hero bets $75. BB check/raises to $3.00. Total pot size becomes $4.50. $2.25 for Hero to call.

    Should Hero call or fold here?
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    09-07-2020 , 02:04 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by PocketKings
    6-max PLO10. Hero has $5.00 and Villain has Hero covered.

    Hero opens HJ with A9A7. Villain defends BB.

    Flop ($0.75): 753

    Hero bets $75. BB check/raises to $3.00. Total pot size becomes $4.50. $2.25 for Hero to call.

    Should Hero call or fold here?
    cbetting for pot here is not a great move i think. your opening range from an early position shouldnt have too many low cards and the board being quite connected, low and rainbow doesnt favor such a range. bb on the other hand is quite wide. no range here should have a big equity advantage i believe. not sure why you chose to bet for pot then. you do have a pair and some rundown blockers and a bdnfd but i think betting half pot and calling vs a raise is the way to go. you also could check behind.

    edit: just saw you were short stacking. then maybe you need to adjust and bet 1/3 instead. not sure about shortstacking postflop strat though

    Last edited by any four cards; 09-07-2020 at 02:10 PM.
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    09-07-2020 , 06:12 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by any four cards
    cbetting for pot here is not a great move i think. your opening range from an early position shouldnt have too many low cards and the board being quite connected, low and rainbow doesnt favor such a range. bb on the other hand is quite wide. no range here should have a big equity advantage i believe. not sure why you chose to bet for pot then.
    Thanks! I see the sizing problem now.

    It is a little bit confusing when you say "bb on the other hand is quite wide. no range here should have a big equity advantage i believe"? (BTW, I open about 18% at HJ.)
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    09-07-2020 , 07:36 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by PocketKings
    Thanks! I see the sizing problem now.

    It is a little bit confusing when you say "bb on the other hand is quite wide. no range here should have a big equity advantage i believe"? (BTW, I open about 18% at HJ.)
    I was trying to say that on this particular board hands you would open from HJ wont be a huge favorite over hands you would defend from bb and vice versa. BB will defend a wide range of hands so he will often connect with such a low board too while HJ will have lots of high cards and overpairs which BB would have decent equity against. On a board like K72r HJ will usually have an equity advantage for example
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    09-09-2020 , 06:09 PM
    6-Max. UTG limps. Hero at HJ with QQ87 rainbow. Overlimp or fold?
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    09-09-2020 , 06:55 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by PocketKings
    6-max PLO10. Hero has $5.00 and Villain has Hero covered.

    Hero opens HJ with A9A7. Villain defends BB.

    Flop ($0.75): 753

    Hero bets $75. BB check/raises to $3.00. Total pot size becomes $4.50. $2.25 for Hero to call.

    Should Hero call or fold here?

    I would check the flop. Villain has a massive range advantage here.
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    09-09-2020 , 06:56 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Bremen
    Hello!

    I am learning PLO now that I have access to legal online poker (PA). I had to share this hand although it isn't really worth a post imo

      PokerStars - $0.10 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 6 players
      Hand converted by Holdem Manager 3

      BB: $14.43 (144.3 bb)
      UTG: $22.32 (223.2 bb)
      MP: $9.42 (94.2 bb)
      CO: $8.74 (87.4 bb)
      Hero (BTN): $4.26 (42.6 bb)
      SB: $13.48 (134.8 bb)

      SB posts $0.05, BB posts $0.10

      Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has T A J 9
      UTG calls $0.10, MP calls $0.10, fold, Hero raises to $0.55, fold, BB calls $0.45, UTG calls $0.45, MP calls $0.45

      Flop: ($2.25, 4 players) Q K 5
      BB checks, UTG checks, MP bets $0.20, Hero raises to $2.74, 2 folds, MP calls $2.54

      I raised hoping to force out diamond draws and improve my outs, also these games are so passive I'll be able to take a free card on the turn if I wish. Realistically people don't fold enough and this is spew imo

      Turn: ($7.73, 2 players) Q
      MP bets $0.90, Hero raises to $0.97 and is all-in, fold

      uh? I guess the games are good.

      Results: $9.53 pot ($0.48 rake)
      Final Board: Q K 5 Q

      Hero wins $9.05

      In general you don't want to pile money in with a wrap when the board has a flush draw.
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      09-11-2020 , 04:21 PM
      6-Max PLO10.

      UTG has $9.20 and Hero $10.95.

      UTG raises to $0.35 and it is folded to Hero at Button with KJK6. Is calling better here than 3-betting?

      Would you 3-bet instead if having KJKQ?
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      09-12-2020 , 05:41 AM
      Not three betting either combo, although it depends on how wide utg is opening. I'd actually rather three bet the former, because with the second you block more of his non aces combos.
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      10-16-2020 , 04:46 PM
      Quote:
      Originally Posted by PocketKings
      6-Max. UTG limps. Hero at HJ with QQ87 rainbow. Overlimp or fold?
      I fold but I'm no expert fwiw.

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      10-31-2020 , 10:21 AM
      PokerStars - $0.10 Ante $0.01 PL Hi FAST (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 6 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      BTN: 107.9 BB
      Hero (SB): 207.5 BB
      BB: 104.6 BB
      UTG: 100 BB
      MP: 112.6 BB
      CO: 22.4 BB

      6 players post ante of 0.1 BB, Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

      Pre Flop: (pot: 2.1 BB) Hero has A 6 T T

      UTG raises to 4.1 BB, fold, fold, BTN calls 4.1 BB, Hero calls 3.6 BB, BB calls 3.1 BB

      Flop: (17 BB, 4 players) 5 J T
      Hero bets 12.1 BB, fold, UTG raises to 52.6 BB, fold, Hero raises to 174.1 BB, UTG calls 43.2 BB and is all-in

      Turn: (208.6 BB, 2 players) A

      River: (208.6 BB, 2 players) 7

      Hero shows A 6 T T (Three of a Kind, Tens)
      (Pre 54%, Flop 43%, Turn 20%)
      UTG shows Q 9 5 K (Flush, Ace High)
      (Pre 46%, Flop 57%, Turn 80%)
      UTG wins 199.7 BB


      Hi,
      do i need jack trips to make all-in reraise or is T-trips enough?
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      10-31-2020 , 11:46 AM
      Quote:
      Originally Posted by konnak
      PokerStars - $0.10 Ante $0.01 PL Hi FAST (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 6 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      BTN: 107.9 BB
      Hero (SB): 207.5 BB
      BB: 104.6 BB
      UTG: 100 BB
      MP: 112.6 BB
      CO: 22.4 BB

      6 players post ante of 0.1 BB, Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

      Pre Flop: (pot: 2.1 BB) Hero has A 6 T T

      UTG raises to 4.1 BB, fold, fold, BTN calls 4.1 BB, Hero calls 3.6 BB, BB calls 3.1 BB

      Flop: (17 BB, 4 players) 5 J T
      Hero bets 12.1 BB, fold, UTG raises to 52.6 BB, fold, Hero raises to 174.1 BB, UTG calls 43.2 BB and is all-in

      Turn: (208.6 BB, 2 players) A

      River: (208.6 BB, 2 players) 7

      Hero shows A 6 T T (Three of a Kind, Tens)
      (Pre 54%, Flop 43%, Turn 20%)
      UTG shows Q 9 5 K (Flush, Ace High)
      (Pre 46%, Flop 57%, Turn 80%)
      UTG wins 199.7 BB


      Hi,
      do i need jack trips to make all-in reraise or is T-trips enough?
      I‘d advice to fold pre. on flop it’s not a great spot to stack off with middle set and no real redraw. versus JJ we are looking grim and vs conbo draws we are not even ahead, as you learned the hard way. in some cases even with JJ it’s not a great spot to go all in with with no backup
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      11-01-2020 , 06:25 AM
      Quote:
      Originally Posted by any four cards
      I‘d advice to fold pre. on flop it’s not a great spot to stack off with middle set and no real redraw. versus JJ we are looking grim and vs conbo draws we are not even ahead, as you learned the hard way. in some cases even with JJ it’s not a great spot to go all in with with no backup
      didnt even think about my loosy preflop play until u said it. Its 1vs1, i thougt shipping would be okay but maybe calling would be better play and then fold on turn if villain continues betting. what is grim on the context? ( not native english)
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      11-01-2020 , 08:02 AM
      Quote:
      Originally Posted by konnak
      didnt even think about my loosy preflop play until u said it. Its 1vs1, i thougt shipping would be okay but maybe calling would be better play and then fold on turn if villain continues betting. what is grim on the context? ( not native english)
      grim means dark/bad, I think...not a native either
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      11-23-2020 , 02:17 AM
      3 handed vs aggressive player on PPPoker:

      I don't know how to convert from the app so I'm transcribing manually. Button is very aggro and likes to apply pressure, but not a complete maniac post flop. Short/medium stacks are common in this game

      PPPoker $1/$2, 3 handed

      SB (Hero): $252
      BB: $60
      Button: $134

      Preflop: ($3.00) Hero is SB with A J K T
      Button raises to $6.00, Hero calls, BB calls.

      I was thinking I could 3 bet this preflop but these guys are very loose/wild and I wanted to see a flop before committing plus getting 4 bet would suck and could easily happen.

      Flop:($18.00) T 7 9 (3 players)
      Hero checks, BB checks, Button bets $18.00, Hero calls, BB folds.

      Decent flop but unlikely to take it down with a donk lead and could easily be in bad shape against the nuts and/or Axs.

      Turn: ($54) T
      Hero checks, Button bets $27, Hero...

      Easy all-in? Is there any merit to another line? Should I have raised at any point prior to this?
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      11-30-2020 , 11:49 PM
      Are there any stables based around 100-200PLO? Seems like most are focused on MTTS.
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      12-10-2020 , 07:20 PM
        IPoker, $0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
        Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

        Hero (SB): $24.75 (99 bb)
        BB: $61.69 (246.8 bb)
        UTG: $10.90 (43.6 bb)
        MP: $31.26 (125 bb)
        CO: $30.44 (121.8 bb)
        BTN: $65.08 (260.3 bb)

        Preflop: Hero is SB with T K 2 K
        UTG calls $0.25, MP raises to $1, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.90, BB folds, UTG calls $0.75

        Flop: ($3.25) 8 5 8 (3 players)
        Hero checks, UTG checks, MP checks

        Turn: ($3.25) K (3 players)
        Hero bets $2.50, UTG folds, MP calls $2.50

        River: ($8.25) J (2 players)
        Hero bets $4.42, MP raises to $10.09, Hero raises to $21.25 and is all-in, MP calls $11.16

        Spoiler:
        Results: $50.75 pot ($2 rake)
        Final Board: 8 5 8 K J
        Hero mucked T K 2 K and lost (-$24.75 net)
        MP showed J 8 A 8 and won $48.75 ($24 net)


        First couple hands at a Bovada table, so no read. Is the river reraise necessary on my part, or is it just a call when he pops the river? Anyone play this different?

        I had a hard time putting him on a hand that makes sense for the river raise, J8xx or a weird JJxx, or 88xx obviously. I considered K8xx and 55xx least likely. I think at these stakes there's value to be gained by a riverraise from these hands,

        I've played very little Omaha so my sense of relative hand strength may be way off. Thoughts?
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