[OFFICIAL] SSPLO Beginners Thread - New to PLO? Try this for quick questions/tips/chat - Page 109 - Small Stakes Pot Limit Omaha

Damn, must made some misstake when I plugged that hand into PPT (was surprised why I'd only have 21%). Got 41.67% when I did it again.

Yeah, I like the idea of half-potting it. Its an easy call too if he jams given our equity.

Was thinking about raising river, but was a bit worried he would have something like T9 that wanted a cheap show-down but isn't folding so I just called.

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11-18-2014 , 01:15 PM

#2702

h3avym3tal

enthusiast

Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 56

This is my graph for this month. PLO5 and last 3k hands on PLO2. I have no idea what to do. Any advice for dealing with this will be nice.

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11-18-2014 , 10:10 PM

#2703

GoGetaRealJob

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we just had a similar discussion ITT, scroll back a couple pages to see graphs

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11-19-2014 , 05:03 PM

#2704

KelvinKe

adept

Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 1,173

Can anyone shed light on how relevant are the PLO from Scratch articles from Donkr for 25PLO in today's game? It's been a while since I played PLO so not really sure.

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11-19-2014 , 06:13 PM

#2705

GoGetaRealJob

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Hmmm... I suggest you start a thread about this, better chance for a reply. I never read the series myself, but people say it provides great fundamentals, which is the most important thing.

Someone who's played small stakes both then and now would be perfect to answer, the only one I can think of is elrazor. PM him and request a reply to this thread or the new one if you create it.

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11-19-2014 , 06:41 PM

#2706

Rei Ayanami

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Originally Posted by BotOnTilt

Was thinking about raising river, but was a bit worried he would have something like T9 that wanted a cheap show-down but isn't folding so I just called.

T9xx would be inducing. It doesn't want a cheap showdown -- it wants the stacks to get in somehow.

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11-20-2014 , 07:45 AM

#2707

Charlie Yu

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100bb deep, CO opens, what hands do you 3b on BTN and what hands do you flat? My VPIP 6max is 15/13 and I feel I should flat more hands IP and take advantage of position. So what hands are suitable for flatting? Here are some marginal hands:
a) KK42r
b) QJ99ss
c) AT83as
d) 8765ss
e) Q985ds

I think hands a,b and maybe c are playable for a flat, while d and e looks like 3bet bluffs. I'm not sure, needs help from more experienced players.

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11-20-2014 , 09:18 AM

#2708

Jabonator

nice piano there

Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 13,281

Wow you're nitty. Could maybe fold c, but yeah, you've got it right.

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11-20-2014 , 11:25 AM

#2709

GoGetaRealJob

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nah, c is def a flat too unless blinds squeeze often

any excuse to defend ur btn is usually valid

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11-20-2014 , 11:39 PM

#2710

DogdayCicada

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Anybody had trouble cashing out of Betfair?

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11-21-2014 , 01:27 AM

#2711

DogdayCicada

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I play 1c/2c up to 5c/10c PLO at Stars, 888, and Betfair. With the majority of my play at 2c/4c is it worth trying to get a rakeback deal at these stakes? Do you have to be new to a site to get rakeback? How do you get rakeback?

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11-21-2014 , 08:48 AM

#2712

GoGetaRealJob

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Do you have to be new to a site to get rakeback?

yes.

you need to contact affiliates and ask them for an under-the-table deal

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11-21-2014 , 10:49 PM

#2713

DogdayCicada

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Is it safe to assume an affiliate would be found at a website that promotes a sites deposit bonus?

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11-22-2014 , 02:53 AM

#2714

bm303

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Generally speaking, what's the minimum pocket pair needed to set mine in a bloated multi-way pot preflop? 99? I mean when you are getting very good odds. I'm finding myself limping more hands in the 99-KK range multi-way since they are junk if I don't flop a set, and get paid off big if I do. Anything lower and you run the risk of set over setting and getting stacked. Is 99+ a good general rule?

In this situation, should I be more tempted to play hands like JJ26 or TT95, generally complete junk, but playable multi-way and deep stacked due to the implied odds of flopping a set?

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11-22-2014 , 09:12 AM

#2715

Ph33roX

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Every situation is different and there are a lot of different hands that include pairs 99 through KK. If you're playing a multy-way pot mostly for the set value of your hand I would definitely stick to JJ+. 99-TT hands don't flop top set that often and so your implied odds are not as big. The EV difference between the nuts and the 2nd nuts in a multyway pot is huge. Since flopping a set is a somewhat-infrequent scenario, you really rely on a very high EV when it happens.

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11-24-2014 , 10:42 PM

#2716

DogdayCicada

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So...you sign up for rakeback with a website and they give you a cut of your rake...is there any catches?

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11-25-2014 , 10:04 AM

#2717

GoGetaRealJob

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In theory, no

Some affiliates have been known to delay payments, etc, but at least on iPoker the site pays you, not the affiliate, so there should be no problems.

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11-25-2014 , 04:07 PM

#2718

Winged Kuriboh

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Are some of the older training videos for PLO ok to watch or are they outdated now? Still relevant to people just switching from NLHE to PLO?

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11-25-2014 , 04:36 PM

#2719

GoGetaRealJob

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Depends on the video. While the basic "nuts and bolts" of the game remain the same as they've always been, you should look out for strategies outlined in older videos based on what regs generally do in different spots.

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11-25-2014 , 10:18 PM

#2720

DogdayCicada

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I don't understand. IPoker looks like a site that recommends other sites. Where on the website would you go to sign up for rakebake. Where on the site do you sign up to play those websites.

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11-25-2014 , 11:21 PM

#2721

GoGetaRealJob

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Ok, I'll make it real easy for ya:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/pr...php?do=newrbpm

Type a rakeback request and send, you'll be receiving a bunch of offers in no time.

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11-26-2014 , 03:20 PM

#2722

guimz

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appart from the 3b... is it standard given action?

Winamax - €0.50 PL Hi (5 max) - Omaha Hi - 4 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 95.5 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
Hero (BB): 221.86 BB
CO: 97.36 BB (VPIP: 59.18, PFR: 12.24, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 52)
BTN: 172.28 BB (VPIP: 30.99, PFR: 24.75, 3Bet Preflop: 10.80, Hands: 508)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has T

fold, fold, SB raises to 3 BB, Hero raises to 9 BB, SB calls 6 BB

Flop: (18 BB, 2 players) 4

SB checks, Hero checks

Turn: (18 BB, 2 players) J

SB checks, Hero bets 12 BB, SB raises to 36 BB, Hero calls 24 BB

River: (90 BB, 2 players) 5

SB bets 50.5 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 50.5 BB

Spoiler:

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11-26-2014 , 04:41 PM

#2723

GoGetaRealJob

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Flop is a nice GTO-checkback, but I prefer just c-betting in a vacuum. Most of the hands villain will be jamming are flushdraws, which you block. It's gut-wrenching to b/f here, obv, but I think it's better in a vacuum. (See how bad ur doing vs a Q-hi FD?)

As played, I prefer checking back turn. It induces bluffs and allows villain to hit a str8/2pair to call you off

I'm def calling down after stabbing turn