Necessary bankroll depends on three parameters: winrate, standard deviation, and acceptable risk of ruin. We can make default assumptions about the stdev, but what good is "bankroll" advice without a ballpark estimate of your winrate? Or without knowing if you're willing to go broke 1/100 of the time, etc.?

I dont want to deposit more money. Dont know how good i am at PLO at lowstakes. I 5+ years ago i played NL50 / NL100 with ok results. Mostly played 12 tables rakebackgrind..
At that time i had 50 buyins or something in the account but that was because i played many tables. Now im gonna play like 4 tables and learn the game. Is the swings 20-30 buyins even as a winning player on microstakes you think?

Well, it still matters whether you're a massively winning player or a marginally winning player.

Online is not my area of expertise. Live, the opponents are atrocious, but the schooling of many atrocious opponents creates huge variance. It's almost like a mini tournament. Also "buyin" is a vague concept because PLO should and often does allow buyins from sub-100 BB to maybe 200, or uncapped in the bigger games.

In general with a little study I think you can beat a live $1-2-(5 to open-limp) game for enough that 20 * 100 -> 2000 bring ins ($10k) is enough to stay solvent 99% of the time, but that's just my guess.

Hi,
I played plo for the first time last night in a home game and have a few Qs. In one hand I had 66T8 and the board was 66T6K, I got a lil confused re the must play two cards and wasn't sure if I had quads or not? If so, does you kicker ever play/matter when you have one card quads etc? Also, any links/recs where I can learn how to read the board/my hands better in plo?
Thanks

I think you have something wrong there. You're showing five 6s visible in the deck.

Hwang's first book has some exercises and is well worth the read for a beginners' live PLO book.

Sorry about that..I had 6T48

OK. You're playing 666 off the board and 6T out of your hand. Your kicker technically plays but it's never salient because no one else can have the same quads.

You might be thinking of something like QQQQ5 on the board. In hold'em, everyone has quads and the hand(s) with the highest single card has quads with the best kicker. In Omaha you could only play three of the queens there, so the winner would be the biggest full house (i.e. has to be a pocket pair), or failing that, trip queens plus the highest two unpaired cards. Flushes and straights would be impossible on such a board.

Even trips on board tend to confuse a lot of people. JJJ85 -- You can't play a single 8 out of your hand and the 8 on the board for jacks full of eights, because you already have three playing cards on the board. You need two from your hand. However, on JJJK7 if you have pocket kings you can play the king off the board and two of the jacks, because kings full is likely your best possible hand.

Im playing Micros in a swedish site with a 200bb max buyin. What are The pros and cons buy in for 100 vs 200bb?
Are The swings bigger or smaller with 200bb? What would you guys do in my situation?

If you don't know how stack depth changes the game, are you sure you're one of the best players in the game? If not, buy in as short as you can, observe a lot, get some good training materials, and when you can answer your own question here, you might be ready to buy in deeper.

Hint #1: since effective stacks are determined pairwise by the shorter of the two stacks, if you have $1000 and the skill advantage and I have $100, your skill doesn't matter against me for the other $900.

Im not the best player.. But far from the worst. many fish buy in for 200bb. My question is really if the swings will be much bigger if i play 200bb from start instead of 100bb

So I have been playing both PLO and PLO8 for at least 10 years now, and I have developed a really strong online game where I crush the cash game tables at PLO$10 or $PLO25 for a month or so, then I go on a major tilt and blow it all after some bad beats by moving up to ridiculously high stakes like PLO$200 that I am not bankrolled for. Sound familiar?

Well, My goal is to not let that happen again, so I want to start posting results somewhere so I can feel like I am being held accountable if I blow the awesome results I am accumulating by moving up in stakes if I tilt. I feel like if I post results, I will be shamed if I blow my bankroll in front of everyone. Peer pressure will hopefully help me stay focused.

By the way, my PLO play for the past 1000 hands at PLO$25 has been the following:

Total Gains $422.46
Minutes 907
Hands 1052
$ per hour $27.95
bb/100 160.63

That is for PLO$25, and yes, that is insane crushing it. I typically play anywhere from half an hour to two hours per day, and I am playing single table with 6 max, usually up against at least 2 or more opponents. I like full tables the best. So I've just finished my 12th day in a row without a loss, and in the past I have run even longer without a loss.

I personally feel like there are a lot of players who could easily make 50bb/100 and earn $8/hr or better at $PLO25. Do any of you have some 1000 hand results for PLO$25? I feel like 160bb/100 is absolutely ridiculously high, but I am really just playing ABC poker mostly with just a few tricks thrown in every now and then and some patient play with a lot of note taking on opponents. That's it. The competition is so weak at $PLO25 that there has to be some players better than me that are able to pull in 200bb/100 for 1000 hands or more. I would love to talk to anyone that is doing that well or even 90bb/100, which is absolutely killing it.

I just moved this message thread to the Poker Blog where it belongs.

Hi how long does it take to solve hu plo?

So just 2 players, 100bb stacks plo4 hi and solve preflop.

I have 64gb ram with i9 processor

What is the best preflop omaha software also?

Monker is what most people use for solving Omaha, it has pre and postflop.

There's SimpleOmaha though I've never seen or heard of anyone using the Omaha version of it.

Does anyone have experience playing omaha8 sit and goes? Surely these are filled with tons of bad players, right? Haven't quite worked up the courage to hop into them yet.

Had the same problem like you and are reading right now the book from Jeff Hwang which I like a lot.

The 2+2 PLO stickies are also helpful (starting hands per position,...)

Hwang book: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0818407263...s%2C222&sr=8-1

Just realized the OP's post was from 2020

that book is from 2008.. Are you able to beat plo2 with just that? it doesnt sound quite right.

I've played 100s and 200s, the game is easy as hell.