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03-16-2018 , 08:36 PM

Wentin Well

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Join Date: Feb 2018 Posts: 43

Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $8.17 (81.7 bb)
Hero (BB): $26.25 (262.5 bb)
UTG: $14.09 (140.9 bb)
MP: $10.34 (103.4 bb)
CO: $10.60 (106 bb)
BTN: $10.60 (106 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with T

UTG raises to $0.35, 2 folds, BTN calls $0.35, SB calls $0.30, Hero calls $0.25

Flop: ($1.40) 9

(4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.96, UTG folds, BTN raises to $3.20, SB raises to $7.82 and is all-in, Hero raises to $25.90 and is all-in, BTN calls $7.05 and is all-in

I'd like your opinions on the flop donk bet. UTG is a weak reg and BU a good LAG. When he raises I know he's got at least a good combo draw. SB unknown.
after the action, is there any way I can fold? What if the Q is an A so I don't have extra outs against the same straight?

Spoiler:

Bonus question - guess the equities. I was somewhat surprised at first, but the more I think about it, the more it makes sense...

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03-17-2018 , 05:12 AM

md46135

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Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 420

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I'd like your opinions on the flop donk bet.

I think it's good, 4way hands in PLO play pretty straightforward on these boards. if you're counting on someone to stab a naked flush draw here, it won't happen very often.

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after the action, is there any way I can fold?

with 100bb, I think no.

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Bonus question - guess the equities.

around 50% for Q3J9, you and the other guy 25%.

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03-17-2018 , 11:35 AM

Purasevic

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Join Date: Oct 2017 Posts: 768

I would check with 8T no redraw and fold facing bet and reraise.If i bet and face this kind

of action it`s close, probably still a fold.With 8TTQQ 100bb deep,and sb even 82 bb deep don`t think we can ever fold this.

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03-17-2018 , 02:22 PM

Wentin Well

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thanks for your opinions. I honestly went for the donk because I am holding TT - without the blocker I take a more passive approach since it's more likely I am being freerolled. Might be paranoia, dunno.

When I saw the equities I was unpleasantly surprised which made me wonder if I should have put any money at all after the flop, but I guess it was just a weird setup.

and btw:

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Originally Posted by md46135

around 50% for Q3J9, you and the other guy 25%.

did you really guess that without external help? Respect if you did, but it was so accurate, that I doubt it

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03-17-2018 , 02:45 PM

Rei Ayanami

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Those seem like logical guesses. I was a bit confused about why it seemed implausible, since it's what I guessed myself, but apparently the exact equities are 50.00/25.00/25.00 lol. Anyway, that's just a big coincidence.

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03-17-2018 , 05:05 PM

md46135

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Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 420

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Originally Posted by Wentin Well

did you really guess that without external help? Respect if you did, but it was so accurate, that I doubt it

my thought was that the guy with Q3J9 has 13 outs (9 flush + 4 boat) and it's game over if he hits any of those, I guess it's not exactly 13 but doesn't matter too much. 13 outs heads up is cca 45%, but 3way it goes a bit up because more cards are known, so I guessed 50% for him. you and the other guy have the same hand so you split the remaining 50% equity equally between you two.

amazing that it was completely correct, what are the odds

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03-17-2018 , 05:18 PM

Wentin Well

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spot on. on the turn I was a dog cos the other straight picked up a flush draw, but somehow I scooped it ^^ Guess variance isn't always a *****

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03-18-2018 , 12:57 PM

the_spike

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Check fold flop.

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03-18-2018 , 12:59 PM

the_spike

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Originally Posted by Wentin Well

I honestly went for the donk because I am holding TT - without the blocker I take a more passive approach since it's more likely I am being freerolled.

If I had a dollar for every time I saw an Omaha play based on a blocker card go bad..... well, I wouldn't be here posting on this forum, that's for sure.

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03-19-2018 , 12:13 PM

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poloplaya1414

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Originally Posted by Purasevic

First of all, he does have a redraw to a higher straight.

Second, checking the nuts on a board this draw heavy is so ****ing bad Im puking.

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03-19-2018 , 01:01 PM

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Purasevic

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Originally Posted by poloplaya1414

First of all, he does have a redraw to a higher straight.

Second, checking the nuts on a board this draw heavy is so ****ing bad Im puking.

The question was if he had no Q would that still be a bet.I said my self it`s ok with this redraw.

I can not see reasons why we would love to built huge pot oop in a 4way

single raised pot with nut straight no redraw.

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03-19-2018 , 01:30 PM

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poloplaya1414

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Originally Posted by Purasevic

Apologies I missed that. I would still bet if checked to. I don't want to build the pot, but I don't want to give away free cards either.

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03-19-2018 , 02:12 PM

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PokerPlayingGamble

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i like the flop donk, 4 way u cant expect to be able to cr often

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04-05-2018 , 11:37 PM

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DickeLatte

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Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 1,152

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Originally Posted by the_spike

Check fold flop.

this advice is nittier than that ole book by hwang.

wp OP

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