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Old 06-07-2021, 06:17 PM   #1
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New to Omaha Questions

Go easy on me. Very new to this.

Question for a $2/$2 PL Omaha game with $500 stacks effective
AA103

I assumed to pot this preflop and did. So feel that is the right play. Someone raised the $5 rock to $10 and some callers came along and I went pot. 3 callers so $265 in the pot already.

Flop Q87

What do you do here with 3 players behind and first to act?

Are you potting this again? There are back door possibilities but I only have one pair.

Any help would be great. Fun game but man there’s some learning to do.
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Old 06-07-2021, 09:32 PM   #2
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Re: New to Omaha Questions

I am somewhat new too, but I think with such a low SPR and two backdoor nut flushes you can happily pot this and get it in. I would take my advice somewhat cautiously though.
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Old 06-08-2021, 01:49 AM   #3
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Re: New to Omaha Questions

You have too many callers in a single-raised pot, so I'd check and see what develops, and next best is to bet small. You against the field, it is quite possible, if not likely, that someone caught up, e.g., 2p, set, wrap, or pair+draw, all of which you are behind. You have no blockers to what's on the board, which increases the likelihood that someone else connected. (Your T discounts some straight draws, but weights Vs even more to made hands.) Also, consider a l/rr if you think someone after you will raise. This would make getting it in on this flop much more reasonable as hopefully you'd have thinned the field somewhat.

Spr 2 spots with overpairs are tricky multiway in hold 'em . That should give you an idea about where you stand in this omaha hand.

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Old 06-08-2021, 03:43 AM   #4
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Re: New to Omaha Questions

pre is standard, we have a masisve hand and will be pushing a ton of equity. on the flop I think we can bet gii.
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Old 06-08-2021, 06:48 AM   #5
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I would check and see what develops, this is a board that smashes everyone and could result in a multi way all in and we can get out
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Old 06-09-2021, 05:26 PM   #6
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Re: New to Omaha Questions

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Go easy on me. Very new to this.

Question for a $2/$2 PL Omaha game with $500 stacks effective
AA103

I assumed to pot this preflop and did. So feel that is the right play. Someone raised the $5 rock to $10 and some callers came along and I went pot. 3 callers so $265 in the pot already.

Flop Q87

What do you do here with 3 players behind and first to act?

Are you potting this again? There are back door possibilities but I only have one pair.

Any help would be great. Fun game but man there’s some learning to do.

I rip it here. Sucks to run into a set. We have 2 backdoor flush draws and 2 aces to hit if we are against a set.

Someone has Q8 or Q7 (less likely hands), you aren't in terrible shape. Someone has 87, you are in even better shape.

Nightmare senario here for you is 9TJ6 or something similar. You got a ten to block some straights from getting there.

Checking is acceptable, see if you can turn a flush draw, if they all check. I'm fine with check-raise jamming too.
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Old 06-10-2021, 08:56 PM   #7
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Re: New to Omaha Questions

If you do commit, with a hand with some bd equity but not value hand blockers, I think you'd use small sizing or check and get it in based on how many people vpip on flop.

4 way pots are complicated though. I think solver plays much tighter here than people would think. I don't know the answer though. I think bet/gii could be bad.
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Old 06-13-2021, 12:30 AM   #8
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Re: New to Omaha Questions

I'm pretty sure I'd shrug and pot it, it's not great but with the two backdoors and the T blocker I'd convince myself it's the best play. If you have decent reads on the people with position you can think about checking for information ... with the two backdoors you do have some ok turn cards too, if it checks through.

Having a quick look wide or sane ranges don't seem to make much difference, it's a random flop.

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board: Q87
Hand Pot equity Wins Ties
AsAdTd3s25.72% 152,2404,229
80%23.36% 133,63013,120
60%25.22% 144,43313,868
40%25.70% 147,26413,990

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board: Q87
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50%25.38% 145,68413,333
40%25.37% 145,51513,556
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Old 06-13-2021, 09:37 AM   #9
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Re: New to Omaha Questions

If your EV is barely above a flip, and you don't have positional advantage to leverage visibility or polarity. That's very strong reason not to bet.
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Old 06-13-2021, 11:45 AM   #10
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Re: New to Omaha Questions

I don't play anywhere near those stakes, but I would check and probably check-fold against serious action by more than one opponent.

SPR may be pretty low, but we only put in < 20% of our stack so I don't think this is an auto stack off against three opponents.
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