Untracked site so I have to piece together HH, sry.

V (200-250bbs?) opens CO 5bbs (high ante game), Hero (350bbs) pots BTN 18bbs K8JT.,
SB (can't remember stack, at least 200bbs) cold calls, CO calls.

(~60bbs) T44 checks around.

9 CO leads 40bbs, Hero call, SB fold.

7 CO leads thinks for couple secs, leads pot (140bbs), Hero?


V had been playing pretty loose, I'd seen him cold call an EP open from CO with 7764ss, and he seemed to be opening frequently from all positions.

Our blocker seems pretty significant bc I doubt he chooses this river sizing with 4x boats.

Yea,ten blocker is significant.I would call this,he can have bunch of bluffs here,lot`s of turn straight and flush draws missed on river except j8.

Interesting hand.

I don't love the 3-bet, especially if you're in a game where a 3-bet is getting called in 3 spots. I would just flat on the button.

I think turn is a fold. We're in a 4 way pot, 2 people still to act, and CO isn't really capped here because he could've been checking to the raiser on the flop.

River is super polarizing. I doubt there's any value hand you're beating that makes this bet so it's very much a bluff catching spot. I guess I doubt that an unknown is bluffing 1/3 of the time here, but who knows. Probably a fold, but I hate calling turn, hitting and still folding. The reason I think turn is a fold is that we binked on river and still are in a tough spot. 44, TT and 99 all make sense for V here.

why wouldn`t he?

fold turn

is that a serious question?

folding turn seems like a clear underdefend, esp when CO would reach turn with his entire preflop opening range (due to preflop cc'er).
can you guys give an approximate range for calling turn then? what is the weakest hand you're calling?

Calling turn with AA (sometimes) KQJ+ and some NFDs with OE at a minimum, obviously our TT/99 hands like JT99 that we occasionally 3 bet or double paired AA or KK with TT/99/77 side cards.

That said, if you are calling turn, I'm thinking you have to call this river since you binked it but I'm not excited about it. Generally, I don't like drawing at these stakes on paired boards against an uncapped range in mjlti-way pots regardless of the PF 3bet as I see too many 3bets get cold called by random hands. Would also depend a bit on reads about SB.

If he's loose/splashy aggrotard he could just as easily have A4xx here rather than 4x boats and we only block TT specifically, 99 definitely still in his range. Theoretically, we could be uncapped here with TT specifically but there are so few combos in our range...

IDK...I almost prefer having like AA23 to hero here leaving him with missed KQJTcc etc.

Fold turn
If for some reason we aren't folding turn at this point I prefer raise to a call

Having made it to the river, it is still probably a fold but a close decision vs some opponents