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10-23-2018 , 02:08 PM
Live 1/3 with bring-in of $5

I am the most active and aggressive on the table. All the players except BB are very loose passive. BB is loose with a little aggro but not much. Everyone is pretty bad tbh. Most players just play with their hands face up.

Hero with JTT8r in SB

UTG (weak tight): ($800) Limps
UTG+1 (big whale) ($300) Limps
MP (whale) ($300): Limps
CO: (Reg) ($300): Limps
BTN: (Reg fish) ($300) Limps
SB (Hero) ($2000):Limps
BB (Reg Fish) ($515): Raises to $25
Everyone calls

Pot ($175)
Flop: Ks7h5d And it is checked around.

Turn is Th
I have made 2nd nuts and the board is becoming coordinated. There are 6 people left to act.

Hero????
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I bet pot. BB reraises allin to $490. UTG tanks then calls, leaving $300~ behind. UTG+1 Calls allin. Everyone else folds to me.

Pot is $1390. It is $340 for me to call. 2 players allin. One player left with $300 behind.

Hero???
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I reraise to get UTG allin. UTG calls.

It was and still is a confusing hand for me.

Thanks for looking.
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10-23-2018 , 03:14 PM
Flick it in and yell HOOOLD
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10-24-2018 , 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by SolarAU
Flick it in and yell HOOOLD
+1

No one slowplays top set on anything but the least connected boards ever like K72r. So you have the best hand. Also of note is that you block straight outs and don't block board pairing cards, which is really good for your equity here. I expect a regfish to show up w/ a lot of AA in this spot TBH, probably with a broadway draw as well. I expect the other guys to show up w/ mediocre combo draws a lot (which you're still ahead of).
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10-24-2018 , 04:16 PM
Unfortunately the one guy you need to worry about the most is the guy with the most $$ in front of him. If properly labeled as weak-tight I would expect AA/hearts or the 'obvious' KK/hearts combo here with possibly some dangler/blocker going on.

He's UTG and chose not to pot PF since he was next to the raiser and maybe has junk danglers. A Flop check is a bit curious but with 4 to act behind he may have expected someone to bite to make sure his shove was an all-in. The pause/call leads me more towards AA/hearts/gutter/wrap but could've been an act as well with KK.

Non-heart 2s and 3s are the only non-board-pairing cards that keep the status quo of this Board. A 9 only gives you middle straight. These hands that check through and then explode on Turns tend not to go well for the 'leader'.

My guess is that BB slow-played the KK and UTG had AA/hearts and OP didn't win a big pot. It's super easy for the table to think Hero is weaker than he really is due to the aggressive image as well but I worry about both a PF raiser and a W-T Player dumping in stacks.

I don't think the hand changes much, we are never folding and always potting this Turn if we check, so we might as well get the ball rolling ourselves ... The poker Gods tend to like the aggressor, eh? GL
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10-24-2018 , 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by answer20
My guess is that BB slow-played the KK and UTG had AA/hearts and OP didn't win a big pot. It's super easy for the table to think Hero is weaker than he really is due to the aggressive image as well but I worry about both a PF raiser and a W-T Player dumping in stacks.
I didn't see UTG hand as he mucked after a 3 fell on the river. So I took the side pot and BB did indeed roll over KK.
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10-24-2018 , 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by jdr0317
+1

No one slowplays top set on anything but the least connected boards ever like K72r. So you have the best hand. Also of note is that you block straight outs and don't block board pairing cards, which is really good for your equity here. I expect a regfish to show up w/ a lot of AA in this spot TBH, probably with a broadway draw as well. I expect the other guys to show up w/ mediocre combo draws a lot (which you're still ahead of).
This was my line of thought as well.

So it is what I did. Thanks
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10-24-2018 , 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by 23thkr
I didn't see UTG hand as he mucked after a 3 fell on the river. So I took the side pot and BB did indeed roll over KK.
So apparently BB is a huge fish who just lets wet cards come off OOP in PLO. At least you got a rebate from UTG .
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10-24-2018 , 06:50 PM
Easy call

I've seen fish do this before just make a mental note.

You have to play with the assumption your opponents know at least somewhat what they're doing (ie: would bet KK here OTF) or it will be nothing but chaos in your head. Make adjustments as necessary
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10-24-2018 , 06:57 PM
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So apparently BB is a huge fish who just lets wet cards come off OOP in PLO
He is in prime position to check raise.
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10-25-2018 , 01:40 AM
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Originally Posted by PokerPlayingGamble
He is in prime position to check raise.
Honestly in this game no. He might not have realized it, but we were the only 2 people betting for most of the game. No one on that table was betting anything besides the nuts.

The players were very passive. But would call off stacks. His best play was bet bet bet. It just worked out for him this time.
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10-25-2018 , 01:57 AM
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Honestly in this game no.
No, I mean literally, he was in prime position to check raise. As in first (second) to act.
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10-25-2018 , 09:55 AM
Risking a card coming off in games like these for free is too risky IMO. I understand why we'd like to xr because we can deny equity and get all in on the flop, but having two kings in our hand eliminates a lot of hands that can bet / call it off that we have crushed.
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10-25-2018 , 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by jdr0317
No one slowplays top set on anything but the least connected boards ever like K72r.
This is so completely wrong.
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