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07-03-2018 , 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by AKQJ10
Obviously. This is a cool thread.
Haha. Seriously though. I had just doubled up about and hour or two prior.

No PLO today. Stuck with NLHE
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07-03-2018 , 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by CJ72
Haha. Seriously though. I had just doubled up about and hour or two prior.
When was that exactly?Were you deep stacking?Tell us more!
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07-03-2018 , 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Purasevic
When was that exactly?Were you deep stacking?Tell us more!
See post #39.
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07-05-2018 , 02:28 AM
I remind you that raw equity (such as with AA) is only an accurate predictor of your results if you get all in with it. If you have a large bet left over, the hand has to win often WHEN CALLED; which is substantially lower than your average equity. AA will win a lot of the uncontested pots, not nearly so much when someone likes their hand enough to bet or call.

The advantage of shot stack is you can get 2:1 for your money, and THEN the draw bets the eventual winner out of the pot.

I disagree with some of the other posters. Your short stack may very well allow them to often realize their full equity, but it will also allow you to realize all of yours. And, they really cannot call with their 20% equity hands, which they might be able to do with a full stack and implied odds.
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07-06-2018 , 01:18 PM
You realize that shortstacking means you leave after doubling up, right?

Otherwise if you don't adjust your strategy with stack size you are GUARANTEED to lose.
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07-06-2018 , 03:06 PM
Who doesn't realize they should change their strategy?
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07-06-2018 , 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by laggyasian
You realize that shortstacking means you leave after doubling up, right?
Not necessarily. It demands a change in strat of course and when there's 50+ people on the lists and you've traveled a few hundred miles to play for a few days the last thing you want to do is get up off the table just because you made $200.
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07-06-2018 , 04:49 PM
Right, but the key point is to keep posting results on a short stack strategy thread (preferably to brag about folding aces on the flop without mentioning that, you know, you weren't actually short stacked at the beginning of the hand). As long as you started the session short, everyone wants to know how you played your aces.
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07-06-2018 , 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by AKQJ10
Right, but the key point is to keep posting results on a short stack strategy thread (preferably to brag about folding aces on the flop without mentioning that, you know, you weren't actually short stacked at the beginning of the hand). As long as you started the session short, everyone wants to know how you played your aces.
No bragging here. In any case $200 (20BB) is technically short because it's typically the min buyin for 1/2/5. 20BB has been my standard buy-in on this trip.
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07-06-2018 , 05:46 PM
I'm assuming there's a might-as-well-be-mandatory straddle to explain your strange math, but no reason to mention that either. Strat threads are more fun when everyone but you is just guessing at the starting stack size.

Anyway, well done. To think that a few days ago I was giving even money that you were serious.
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07-14-2018 , 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Louie Landale
Your short stack may very well allow them to often realize their full equity, but it will also allow you to realize all of yours. And, they really cannot call with their 20% equity hands, which they might be able to do with a full stack and implied odds.
It will allow you to realize all of your all-in equity, and none of your fold equity. A massive part of PLO is bluffing on the draw. As a shortstack, you can virtually never realize any of this fold equity, hence massively limiting the upside of shortstacking.
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07-16-2018 , 04:06 PM
O_o
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