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02-16-2018 , 09:14 PM

try.

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Another joke hand on Global Poker

Brand new table 3 handed been playing 5 mins no real history yet.

3 handed $1/2
btn 175
hero sb 178 kkq7ss
bb 230

btn raises to 7 we both flat.

Flop KQ9r

I check, sb fires pot of 21, btn calls I call.

Turn 9dd

Checks through

River 5c

I lead pot of 84, sb calls, btn goes all in and its 60 for me to call.

Is there any percentage of time where I'm actually good here and need to call off the 60? I even have the Q blocker

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02-17-2018 , 03:08 AM

RalphWaldoEmerson

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Yeah I would fold.

Really don't like betting pot otr also, especially blocking Qx, a smaller size is clearly better.

3b pre too.

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02-17-2018 , 05:24 AM

abracadabranuts

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$60 to win $228 with top boat which is 26%

so you need 27% to make it a profitable call.

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02-17-2018 , 09:27 AM

user12345

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Calling pre raggy KK$ss is ok esp early on.
He's less likely to run huge bluff 3way however BB range is somewhat capped.

Let bb to call it off.

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02-17-2018 , 03:08 PM

md46135

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is it really impossible that he shoves QQ OTR with only 100bb? having a Q blocker should make it 50-50 that he has QQ or 99. and he knows SB doesn't have a better hand than him.

so not exactly a fistpump situation, but I think I'd never have it in my soul to fold nut boat on this board for 100bb.

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02-17-2018 , 04:40 PM

Rei Ayanami

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Originally Posted by abracadabranuts

$60 to win $228 with top boat which is 26%

so you need 27% to make it a profitable call.

16% at most (when BTN folds). Calling $60 against $84 (initial pot) + $84 (initial bet) + $84 (BTN's call) + $144 (BB's jam).

Anyway, never folding lol.

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02-17-2018 , 05:22 PM

sdclaw

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Why is this gross?

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02-17-2018 , 06:35 PM

md46135

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Originally Posted by sdclaw

Why is this gross?

because he had quads this time

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02-17-2018 , 10:30 PM

illiterat

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Originally Posted by Rei Ayanami

Anyway, never folding lol.

This.

Can talk about sizings on every street, but stop talking about folding.

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02-18-2018 , 12:37 AM

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abracadabranuts

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it not heads up umm oops

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02-18-2018 , 01:56 AM

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try.

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There are exactly two hands that villain is shoving in this spot over my pot size bet and call, QQ and 99 and one of them is extremely unlikely considering I have a Q, not to mention that some percentage of the time QQ is not even going to reshape over that pot size bet.

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02-18-2018 , 03:50 AM

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Rei Ayanami

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Originally Posted by try.

QQ and 99 and one of them is extremely unlikely considering I have a Q

I'm really shocked I'm reading this. There are two queens left in the deck when you have a Q. There are also two nines, since two are on the board. So that puts QQ and 99 about even in an A4C range. QQxx is also more likely to open than 99xx, at least 55-45 in favor of QQ combos in even a wide BTN opening range.

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02-18-2018 , 06:25 AM

#13

gay_on_tse

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He's taking blockers to the next level

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02-18-2018 , 06:58 AM

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RalphWaldoEmerson

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approximately zero people shove QQ for value there

I definitely think it's close, and maybe we should call, but I think the reason is more just to catch random spew, maybe with Kx blocker

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02-18-2018 , 04:04 PM

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illiterat

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Originally Posted by RalphWaldoEmerson

approximately zero people shove QQ for value there

But everyone is opening 9952r and calling rando. bottom set on KQ9 flops after being donked into.

But whatever bet/fold 100% of your range, to less than a min. raise, must be good. /s

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02-18-2018 , 05:05 PM

#16

try.

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Originally Posted by Rei Ayanami

Idk how you can try and eliminate 99 from an opening range on the button 3 handed. He's literally almost raising any 4 cards so I'm sure he's just as likely to raise QQxx as he is 99xx so there are exactly two combos of hands that raise river here, one doesn't raise river near 100% of the time.

I'm not saying this a fold but to be honest, I think the only reason we're calling here is because we are praying villain is a spaz. Thats it. There is literally one value hand we're ahead of and its super thin.

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02-18-2018 , 05:33 PM

#17

Purasevic

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If i know btn is not playing Omaha for the first time,this is a fold to me.

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02-18-2018 , 07:57 PM

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lucaspawpaw16

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Pot folding river just seems ugly. With so much invested here and no reads on player i'm never folding.

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02-19-2018 , 06:40 PM

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Mandracon

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I would call, because if villain shows the queens and says “Nice fold” I’d not be able to play Omaha for the rest of my life.

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02-19-2018 , 09:19 PM

#20

monikrazy

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Snap call, close thread

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02-20-2018 , 12:37 AM

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DingusEgg

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Fixed Threat Title:
Kings full on river facing easy call

Stop being results oriented. Can't fold here, stop over thinking and trying to soul read.

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02-20-2018 , 07:26 AM

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SolarAU

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Hearty meme thread.

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