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03-02-2019 , 06:21 PM
I think today I learned that this is an easy river fold. Everyone agree?

Table 'Thyestes' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: muco1109 ($22.50 in chips)
Seat 2: [the thread starter] ($67.70 in chips)
Seat 3: renozerus ($57.69 in chips)
Seat 4: budda1971 ($22.02 in chips)
Seat 5: cxxadmirer1 ($20.76 in chips)
Seat 6: WSSerious94 ($9.72 in chips)
[the thread starter]: posts small blind $0.10
renozerus: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to [the thread starter] [J 2 J A]
budda1971: calls $0.25
cxxadmirer1: folds
WSSerious94: raises $0.85 to $1.10
muco1109: calls $1.10
[the thread starter]: calls $1
renozerus: folds
budda1971: calls $0.85
*** FLOP *** [K 4 Q]
[the thread starter]: checks
budda1971: checks
WSSerious94: checks
muco1109: bets $2.23
[the thread starter]: calls $2.23
budda1971: calls $2.23
WSSerious94: calls $2.23
*** TURN *** [K 4 Q 7]
[the thread starter]: checks
budda1971: checks
WSSerious94: checks
muco1109: bets $6.50
[the thread starter]: calls $6.50
budda1971: calls $6.50
WSSerious94: calls $6.39 and is all-in
*** RIVER *** [K 4 Q 7 Q]
[the thread starter]: checks
budda1971: bets $12.19 and is all-in
muco1109: raises $0.48 to $12.67 and is all-in
[the thread starter]: calls $12.67
*** SHOW DOWN ***
muco1109: shows [7 7 8 T] (a full house, Sevens full of Queens)
[the thread starter]: shows [J 2 J A] (a flush, Ace high)
muco1109 collected $0.96 from side pot-2
budda1971: shows [6 Q 4 5] (a full house, Queens full of Fours)
budda1971 collected $36.56 from side pot-1
WSSerious94: shows [T Q K K] (a full house, Kings full of Queens)
WSSerious94 collected $37.47 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $76.99 Main pot $37.47. Side pot-1 $36.56. Side pot-2 $0.96. | Rake $2
Board [K 4 Q 7 Q]
Seat 1: muco1109 (button) showed [7 7 8 T] and won ($0.96) with a full house, Sevens full of Queens
Seat 2: [the thread starter] (small blind) showed [J 2 J A] and lost with a flush, Ace high
Seat 3: renozerus (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: budda1971 showed [6 Q 4 5] and won ($36.56) with a full house, Queens full of Fours
Seat 5: cxxadmirer1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: WSSerious94 showed [T Q K K] and won ($37.47) with a full house, Kings full of Queens
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03-02-2019 , 06:48 PM
buddha's line is a boat around 100% of the time.
muco also not shoving the k-high flush on this river with you behind.
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03-02-2019 , 07:25 PM
Buddha at least could be bluffing with a low flush and a queen, but muco literally always has it
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03-02-2019 , 07:41 PM
Doesn't raise flop? Check.
Doesn't raise turn? Check.
Gets drawn out on the river? Check.
Calls river when the board pairs? Check.
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03-02-2019 , 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by VerdantDevil
Doesn't raise flop? Check.
Doesn't raise turn? Check.
Gets drawn out on the river? Check.
Calls river when the board pairs? Check.
Haha I know right. I was thinking this way I can escape it if a full house hits and just call down until I'm safe but I did not have the discipline to fold it.

Would have played the hand the same again (just folded the river), a shove on the turn would most likely not have scared anyone away considering the relatively small remaining stacksizes that wouldn't have changed anything. And who would have folded a big bet on the flop or turn? I don't think the other flush, or the guy with a set of kings, the Q4 guy at most. Don't consider any play wrong until the river. 87% chance on turn dont see the reason to defend there if they're throwing money in.
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03-03-2019 , 04:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Gentlemen
Would have played the hand the same again (just folded the river), a shove on the turn would most likely not have scared anyone away considering the relatively small remaining stacksizes that wouldn't have changed anything. And who would have folded a big bet on the flop or turn? I don't think the other flush, or the guy with a set of kings, the Q4 guy at most. Don't consider any play wrong until the river. 87% chance on turn dont see the reason to defend there if they're throwing money in.
so you have the nuts, think nobody is folding on the turn but you still think not jamming is the correct play? 'i've got the nuts and if i jam here nobody will fold so i'll just call' i'm confused.

should we be scared of being outdrawn multi way here? seems kinda like scared money/uber nitty but maybe i'm wrong?
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03-03-2019 , 05:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Gentlemen
Haha I know right. I was thinking this way I can escape it if a full house hits and just call down until I'm safe but I did not have the discipline to fold it.

Would have played the hand the same again (just folded the river), a shove on the turn would most likely not have scared anyone away considering the relatively small remaining stacksizes that wouldn't have changed anything.
1st bold: I think the poster above me put it well
2nd bold: results don't matter. you didn't know them when you called turn.
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03-03-2019 , 05:28 AM
This is truely remarkable. I can see why you level yourself into not raising the turn, because AKQJ all our blocked, so someone would have to stack off with the T-high flush. Meaning you only get called by sets and then you get outdrawn. Get this type of thinking out of your head. It's nonsense.

Having the nuts and being able to put it in sounds like a good deal to me any day of the week. And twice on sundays.

Today is Sunday.

Get your money in.

As played fold river, super ez. Ranges are like a funnel. Nothing new gets added.
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03-03-2019 , 02:39 PM
op actually stumbled into the optimal line here, definitely on the flop and probably on the turn as well
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