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I wonder who finishes their br challenge 1st Jnandez or Charlie Carell

Jnandez is after day 21 about 1.5 to 2k up..so no chance he will finish his challange successful. But anyway I was watching Jnandez videos one year ago and how he was playing and in this 100k challange he is playing really bad compared to one year ago..
but this is just my view.

How can u say someone's play is bad when you have no idea what good and bad play is?

He sucks but he can have his view. Doesn't mean it's right. Nobody here should take MK seriously.

i follow Jnandez play for 2 years or something like that.
i like his play, but yes, you are not that wrong, something changed,
he makes some more aggressive moves sometimes where he normally just call or folds, and sometimes he fold 2nd nuts like nutsfull (for giving his opponent the str8-flush on Tx 6c 3c 2c 6x , on the river Jnandez bets his 3rd barrel and get a raise all-in, Jnandez fold TT6x and says his opponent only raise with a straightflush here, because its a good Reg - lol WTF - i think its unfoldable but yes he did it. i think later he said in another video it was a mistake to fold and next time he would definitely call lol)

so yes, sometimes he is out of his A-Game, but ok, we are all humans and nobody is perfect, when i analyze my PLO hands after the sessions, i sometimes also find hands where i think: wtf i just played? lol happens. and when you stream live, a lot of people can see this... thats the problem but expect a live streamer to make incorrect play sometimes, because of maybe emotional tilt or i dont know... maybe you know this, sometimes you know you HAVE to fold, but still want to call.. and you feel like "ok lets gamble that one" even when its -EV

He is definitely not calling next time, he just said it so people don't wreck him in future pots

haha i messaged him and told him, that he can not fold this hand in a live stream, because of the good regs who also watch this (not all, but for sure some watch his stuff) will take a note on him, and in future,
if they block a str8 flush with just 1 card against him, they always will exploit him by bluffing him out of the pot

Well yeah but you have to make sure to have jnandez think you are a good player first, and that might be a challenge

Thats true BUT although I am losing money in this game, I can compare some patterns from somebody.
Like watching football or tennis or somethings else in TV, I can make a statement, if somebody is playing good or bad on my own standards. If I watching Jnandez play and feel this play was good or bad even without really understanding whats going. So thats feeling is true for me and thats is what I try to say here. I am not saying Jnandez is playing bad poker I just feel Jnandez made some questionable calls and raises in his challenge in the last videos on youtube..
I doubt I can convince somebody here because of the fact, I am a losing player in this game but i can say at least my opinion..

https://youtu.be/ueufHUXQ0LU?t=395

from NVG:
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That's extremely cherry picked. Since you're not giving context, I'll give it:

To think he can't give advice to people at micro-midstakes is lol worthy.

Yeah graph is pure bull****

- He has a losing 200PLO graph, see above
- he is losing at high stakes as well, like you said
- he didn't finished the first 10k challange at small stakes..gave it up after 3k...
- he is about let me guess 1.5k or less up after 21 session at his new challange

People don't listen to me anyway BUT this is a prof that at least something is going wrong here...
I don't say Jnandez is a bad player, please don't get me wrong BUT the hype about Jnandez here is a little bit overrated...

Unsurprisingly, you can't read a simple graph.

The only thing it's proof of is that you're an idiot and jealous af.

I'll throw a disclaimer here that I've never signed up for anything JN related. It's just painfully obvious that he can teach the game of PLO to motivated players from small to mid stakes.

Ummmm it is worth noting that a lot of his Monkersolver work was done by someone else before all hell broke loose over compensation (and scarves (I'm not kidding)). Don't hero worship people, but don't hate on them for no reason either. He clearly is a above average player at 500z and below. Above 500z is populated by very few fish and some highly skilled players that would find JN spewy.

first of all, Jnandez play on much more sites then only JokerStars, and Statname is almost only showing Stars results. and i am not sure, if they cover full stats, maybe there is missing something? who knows?

and from what i see him coaching, i can say, he is a good player, yes.
for sure he is a very good coach
i like his stuff, and it is normal to have downswings and losing some money in PLO.
i mean this 65k hands graph is not a sample size.
im sure he played hunderts of thousands of hands if not millions of hands already...
so.... ?

He already beat the 100k challenge on stream once before, reaching 100k in just over 80 days. You clearly have no idea what you're talking about. FWIW I wouldn't be surprised if he completes his current challenge also.

Also, his results for the past year or two are public and he has videos on his YouTube channel showing yearly graphs and discussing results and variance. Maybe try to understand that when someone has spent 100s of hours in the lab, and has been a winning player for many years, when they do something you dont agree with it is probably your thinking that is wrong, not theirs.

How did I miss this thread until now, could have used some good laughs to relax between watching Mastermind videos.

hey guys, sorry I'm late to this thread, did we ever figure out if JNANDEZ is really good at Omaha?

50% of the time, he wins every time

Any word on his bankroll challenge. I lol'd when Ryan fee said "I'm not gonna do any of those stupid 100k challenges like Jnandez" on one of his streams. Surely this can't be good for his training site if he doesn't even get halfway close to finishing it.

Jnandez is a beast. PLO is a super swingy game and he is able to 4+ tables of zoom while streaming and articulating his thoughts on stream. Phil Galfond is a prodigy but there is no way he could do that. He plays one hand and sits out to talk about 1 hand for 40 minutes. Yes Phil is amazing at PLO but Jnandez has a different skill set.

Lol I feel exactly the same way right now. I’m not done reading the whole thread, and I just can’t stop

Edit: I thought for a second that the thread peaked, but it just kept getting better. Shoutout to bjoobs for the comedy and Martink for the fodder/analysis