Yeah I'll have to start posting my hands, and maybe 1 in 10 or 1 in 20 will actually be a JNANDEZ hand and we'll see if I get the same accolades. When you have four callers what are the odds a naked top pair is good? It can't be high. You can see many times in his challenge when he ends up 30% vs 70% when he gets it all in on the flop. Hey, it happens to all of us, but it seems too frequent for a guy who wants to sell training.

he got 1k from a chest in that vid wtf

Looking at this thread is like looking at fb or yt comments. I know I'm gonna regret reading due to the sheer stupidity, but I still do it anyway.

Multiple high stakes crushers who have: posted many graphs, created PLO software and strongly dislike Jnandez have said ITT that he is a winning/good reg at PLO 500z. And even tho Jnandez has posted many graphs of v decent samples, you still think he isn't a good player.

V good examples of the dunning Kruger effect ITT. OP doesn't even properly understand GTO and other posters talking about poorly played hands with zero reasoning other than "that must he bad" or "how can u not do x"

Thread is mad tilting ay

Geez, get to your safe space honey.

Mods- can you change the title to "JNANDEZ makes a lot of mistakes postflop"?

I'm sure there are tens of thousands of online players around the world that have a good graph, doesn't mean they don't have enough leaks that I wouldn't want to learn from them. Perhaps he was previously a better player and is playing silly now, I don't know. People that follow his style in the highlight videos are going to get sliced and diced in omaha, that I guarantee.

If you don't wanna learn from him, be my guest mate. Just think it's hilarious you don't an understanding of GTO or good PLO preflop play, yet still think someone who is clearly way advanced is making a ton of bad mistakes

+1

This thread make me sick. Is strange how bad JNandez is playing many hands postflopo in his 100k chalange BUT people still going to argue that he is making it all right becaue of many reason and blah blah blah.
In every video he is making huge mistakes postflop paying of people and get it in bad and still winning because people on his level play just much worse that he did.
One hand was really funny at one video he raised on the flop (flop was all dimonds I guess) with TOP SET against cleaner who flopped the nuts and get lucky on the turn with full house and cleaner was betting the turn WTF?? and than JNandez just called and raised the river and still got paid off...comon guys WTF???..JNandez got luckcy on the turn with his raise on the flop and his opponent made more mistakes that he did in this hand...
And there is alot of hands people just play very bad vs. Jnanadez and Jnandez just benefits from this mistakes...BUt he is making a lof mistakes but this doesn't matter obviously because he is still winning...

Buddy, have you ever actually used a solver? Cos seems like you haven't but you think someone who bases his game on solvers is making huge mistakes

dude....you come here and post graphs in your own thread where you imply plo100 is rigged for you despite the fact that you

1. play too many hands
2. play oop very frequently
3. get it in bad very often
4. lost 10k at plo100

what's that you're saying about 'mistakes postflop'? would that be like shoving any board that you connect with when only massive draws are snapping you off and then being surprised when you lose?

how can you complain that plo100 is basically rigged, which basically means you think your postflop play is good, then come here and say someone who makes a living playing doesn't know what he's doing?

YOU DONT KNOW WHAT YOURE DOING which is why you think his play is ****. his play CANT BE **** because he wins consistently and you don't.

geddit yet?

i'm not even a fanboy, i wouldn't trust the guy as far as i could jizz and he's also currently nurturing his own Steve McClaren Hair Island but he wins at plo and you don't.

so that means he's either the biggest consistent luckbox donk on the planet or you don't know what you're talking about. i know what i'm plumping for.

This thread just keeps on giving and giving.

I'm out of popcorn

@bjoobs..I am running more than 40 buy ins UNDER EV at PLO100 you got it UNDER..
UNDER UNDER UNDER you got it???
If I would run normal, I would not losing that much what I did there..I would be still a losing player, thats true but not that much!!
But this Thread is about Jnandez and not me.
Jnandez is making a lot of mistakes postflop in his challange, everybody can see it, if he is looking OBJEKTIV.. but his reputation and his whole fans and his followers and subscribers can't look objectiv and can't realize how bad he is playing postflop BECAUSE they belive he is a PLO GOD!! and a PLO GOODs don't make any mistakes!
People just wake up please!!!

Martin I'm sure you're a good player. Why do you think Jnandez is bad and you're running bad?

And how do you know those plays are bad? Which metric are you using? Gut feels per square meter?

Look at his last video at 9:15
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0He5ZTmfxk

he flopped the 2nd nut flush, bet the flop and get called. His opponent now leading and betting the turn for 1/2 pot and NOW what is JNandez thinking? yeah of course he is never fold his hand...LOL of course not, he has the 2nd best hand and villian is just donking the turn with any 4 cards right??
Btw villian payed his hand really weird and stupid but anyway he got all Jnandez money. Because now on the river villian checked and Jnandez was thinking: how much we bet, lets make it 95/100 of a pot! LOL LOL lets make it really big than villian is going to call with a low flush? or with what kind of hands is villian calling 95% of the pot here???
But anyway we are never going to fold our hand to a raise on the river in this spot because we get a nice price I guess it was 8:1 for a call (the pot was about 1,3k and he has about 160$ to call) and of course villian won the hand with the nutflush...LOL

and NOW you guys are telling me that Jnandez is really good playing postflop here WOW I have to say something must be wrong here...

Oh my god you're right @Martink1979 !
But he played just this one hand right, we all make mistakes and this is his first mistake, I've never seen him play a hand bad before.

This thread is just insane...Everybody is making mistakes. But Jnandez fans here in this thread can't see any of them because they are blind or have tomatoes on their eyes.
They are in love with Jnandez and can't blame him for anything.
In almost all of his last videos, he posted on youtube he is making small an big mistakes postflop, like in this hand I have posted But no one really care...
His last 10k challage at PLO50 he didn't completed BUT no one really care because he is still the GOD...LOL

If you don't realize that hand is a setup, maybe you shouldn't play above microstakes. Only thing worth discussing in that hand is preflop, it can be a 3bet vs some people and call vs others. It's impossible not to lose money in that hand when you see the flop. He played ok postflop, of course he has to valuebet on the river with 2nd freakin flush. And SPR is so small you can't really fold to any raise, at least with that hand.

This hand is a setup, I know BUT he could bet the river much smaller let's say 1/3 pot or even 1/4 pot and could easy find a fold here on the river...I mean the only hand who is really a bluffing hand here is a Axxx with spade..so is villian really bluffing here on the river??..I would say NO.
Sometimes you can even find a check back on the river, if you are not really sure what is going on in this spot...and after villian was leading the turn into us the hand was a little bit suspect for me...You can safe some money on the river with a check back and move on.. Is this really bad in some cases?? There are not that many hands in villians range who are calling a BIG bet on the river...
If villian is thinking we could have the nuts here because we 3bet preflop, is he calling with Q high flush a big bet on the river??

Rename this thread to, confirmed losing player says confirmed long term winning player bad

so you should be losing like 40 BI's instead of 80. which means you still suck. what's your point?
....being a winning player doesn't mean you play every single hand well. it doesn't mean you don't make mistakes.

those players work on those mistakes, instead of coming into threads as a terrible losing player to complain about how winning players are just lucky donks when THEIR ev graphs are in the positive both for ev and amount won.

go and work on your game ffs. maybe sign up to jnandez's training site lolololol

@bjoobs..
oh man this thread is soo sick...I can show you in EVERY video, which Jnandez has posted in the 100k challange on youtube some postflop mistakes BUT it doesn't matter BECAUSE you guys are so short minded..
Jnandez is telling you the sky is blue..but I see a dark sky there and no one belive me...
Jnandez is telling you 2+2 = 5 and you belive him because he is your PLO GOD!! LOL
After 19 sessions he is only 2k up so it means he will never finished the 100k challenge.
He didn't fininshed his last challange. He has some conflicts with Polg and he still has a lot of subscribers who belive in him and GTO and solver and anything LOL.
You guys are like the UFO-beliver..

So what you are saying is, someone of this graph is not good. Coming from a you, a losing player.

but you don't know what preflop or postflop mistakes are obviously. you think you're playing well and losing even though you're playing poorly and getting what you deserve. so how would you know a bad player if you can't see that you yourself are bad?

i'm **** but i break even and am improving - i don't need to go blaming others for my lack of success. pointing the finger at yourself is the first place to go when you want to change something.

and no, he's not my 'plo god'. stating facts like 'he wins consistently and you don't know what poor play is because you're crap' isn't idolatry.
i guess if he's only 50/50 AI EV and he loses 50% of the games he plays in, most of his winnings are coming from non-showdown winnings...or is he running hot? do you have a full graph?

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