[ ] Jnandez Winning 100k in 100 days
[x] Ryan Fee winning 100k in 3 sessions (One of them <1 hour)

^This!

was that in plo?

Yes, but ranging from 2/5z to 25-50.

last three vids here: https://www.twitch.tv/ryanfeepoker/videos

https://clips.twitch.tv/AuspiciousUninterestedBoarKippa

but is he really good at Omaha?

If we talking Jnando, he's alright. As you can see he's breaking even on 500z

Not sure if serious

I have always tought he felt short in the way you describe him here. 100% agree with you.
But I do think his preflop game is very good, but boy his postflop game just looks so weak. He just never really blufs and never really hero calls someone down. Just how you describe in the hand 3:17, if he checks that river... he is never ever winning the hand against Thecleaner

I am relatively new to PLO so am not skilled enough to comment as a lot of other posters. What I will say is that I have have found Jnand videos helpful and thought provoking in how I have begun to approach the game. I guess the thing that stands out to me is that if you are going to play such an aggro style preflop (as he does when 200bb deep or less), then there are going to be spots OTF where committing might on the surface look bad (the J high flush hand), but with the $ in the pot already and the fact that equities run so close, are in reality +EV overall. I think he is generally good at estimating his equity in these spots and clearly he is willing to fade the variance associated with it (this is the part I struggle with coming from NLH background).

shots fired.

my favourite streamer was shuller_a1t that guy played some of the best music. when he was doing his challenge i donated a couple of stacks to him, all for the cause. his vids have disappeared now tho

Damn, what's his twitch ID?

i think it was like apostle or apo5tle or something

The videos still exist.

my bad i think apo5tle is his 2+2 name shuller_a1t was the actual twitch name.

any links? can't find them.

Here's his latest move that I don't understand. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0He5ZTmfxk&t=309s

Hand starts at about 20 minutes exactly. He has AKQJ single suited and decides to squeeze. Okay. He gets four callers and is first to act. Flop comes A28 rainbow. He bets out half pot. Why? One caller sure. Two maybe, although I think even that is questionable with no real draw besides a two pair draw. But I'm sure people could successfully dispute me on that. But four callers???? Don't get the play at all.

Pretty standard c-bet, dunno what else he should do, c/f?

What's the purpose of a bet there? Hope everyone folds? There's no draw they're going to call with. Check calling a late position bet would be better, I don't think check folding is horrible. This isn't holdem.

I just stopped watching Jnandez videos..It makes me crazy how bad he is playing postflop right now and still winning...

A lot of times at the tables I play this type of c-bet for one-third to one-half pot just keep everyone in passive mode and helps to see the turn for cheaper than checking and having someone else bet two-thirds pot.

On a different note, you guys haven't seen anything like how much gamble he is going to throw into his play if he is way behind trying to get to 100K in 100 days. He has already essentially said playing deep and being willing to gamble deep is an imoportant factor in this type of challenge. Even Shuller's results in a similar challenge relied heavily on his stack "gambling". Gambling is in quotes because it isn't straight up gambling because JNan and Shuller get those deep stacks in often dominating their opponents. Time and time again in Shuller's challenge he had better side cards than opponent, or was double suited to their single suited or never showed up in big pots with less than 99xx while opponents would show up with baby pairs. Dominance pure and simple in huge pots, while your weaker opponent keeps mumbling damn he is lucky.

My guess is JNan successfully completes challenge only to hear many complain that he "gambled" a lot in deep pots.

what could anyone else have except AA there that they can even call a cbet with? ok he ran into AA but on that board nobody should really have anything and if they have 2 pair he has loads of outs. i can see the play but it's high variance for sure.

he plays better post flop than you Martin. no offence bud but you think your post flop play is good so not sure you realise that his post flop play isn't that bad at all. i'm not a fan boy, and i get that he wins a lot just through his willingness to gamble but some of the salt in this thread is pretty amusing.

Here's my theory, and obviously it could be off because I haven't seen him play enough. But I think he selects well preflop and plays position well, and this is enough to make up for the postflop mistakes he makes.

Maybe learn how to play first before questioning how someone else plays their hands?

Honestly there was nothing wrong with the c-bet there although I'm not sure it was the optimal size. Protection betting in omaha is a legit thing bc of how much closer equities run. If we check flop we are essentially giving up when we most likely have a significant amount of equity. Had the other deep-stack not shown up with AA (pretty unlikely) he'd have prob either got it through or got it in as a fave against the 3455 hand.

Fixed your URL to point to the hand.

JFC ... will you look at the stack sizes, it isn't like this is a limped pot with 100x behind vs. everyone.

Pot: $359.5

SB (JN): $2.5k
BB: $399.29
MP: ~1.2k
CO: $441
BTN: $149.25

The only player you shouldn't be auto snap stacking off vs. is MP, and betting 1/2 pot allows at least two players to reopen the action and is basically AI for BTN ... all of which puts leveraged pressure on MP. We are also more likely to have AA than MP, and none of BB/CO/BTN can have AA unless they are idiots.

If we check and BB bets it's just so much more likely that MP calls, which is terrible for us. Also if we check and CO/BTN bets 1/2 pot then MP gets a huge amount of information and can do very bad things to us.

Auto x/f is what you do at PLO 5 when you have god like reads that someone has random any4 88.


If you wanted to argue that betting $74 was better (so that BN can reopen the action) because you get a similar amount of leverage on MP and it's not as bad if BB or CO call wider ... then, meh, maybe ... or $199 to get more folds and maybe a little more pressure to MP ... but checking ... ffs.

Maybe post the hands to the group pretending you are hero in future (saying you think you played it bad and should have done the action you think is best).