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JJ63ds,flush ott bloated pot 1.5-3$ anon table JJ63ds,flush ott bloated pot 1.5-3$ anon table

07-18-2018 , 01:52 AM
no reads on opp,know he is not a maniac
JJ63ddss on CO 140bb effective

Folds to hero,Hero raises pot,only Villain calls on sb
flop 1075dd
check,hero bet 2/3 and get ch-rzed pot by villain,hero calls
turn 9d
hero?hero bets 2/3 and get shove
what to do?villain can have 1010 or lower set with Ad blocker?

Last edited by friedrice88; 07-18-2018 at 02:09 AM.
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07-18-2018 , 09:56 AM
You should be folding to the flop x/r.
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07-18-2018 , 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by F_Ivanovic
You should be folding to the flop x/r.
hmm really? he has a flush draw, gutshot and 2 jacks which could be good.

on the turn villain's line doesn't make much sense to me. if he raised a flush draw and got there, why not bet? if he raised a set, why check/shove? my brain hurts lol

I guess turn can be a pot control check also instead of betting. turn bet is good if you're so sure he has a set or 2 pair on the flop and never a draw.
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07-18-2018 , 11:57 AM
Yea i thought about check back turn but i thought he had a set, but very suprised when saw check raise

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07-18-2018 , 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by md46135
hmm really? he has a flush draw, gutshot and 2 jacks which could be good.

on the turn villain's line doesn't make much sense to me. if he raised a flush draw and got there, why not bet? if he raised a set, why check/shove? my brain hurts lol

I guess turn can be a pot control check also instead of betting. turn bet is good if you're so sure he has a set or 2 pair on the flop and never a draw.
I misread flop, thought he already flopped the flush.

But it might still be a fold - it's kinda close. I mean against most passive type villains they only pot raise here with nutted draws/sets and we're just not doing good against that range. But yeah we have position so I think peeling one off is probably mandatory.

I just fold turn... classic line of "I hit my nut flush but my hand looks like a made hand, so i'll let villain bluff at it" - we have a lot of nut flushes here and villain won't have too many bare Ad here if any. Can probably call off with K high flush some/most of the time too.

Last edited by F_Ivanovic; 07-18-2018 at 10:07 PM.
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07-18-2018 , 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by friedrice88
Yea i thought about check back turn but i thought he had a set, but very suprised when saw check raise
Thing is we can't really go for 2 streets of value with this hand and it's good to have some flushes to protect our turn x-back range.
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