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HU PLO200. Turn & River Play. Weird Preflop Min-Reraise by Villain. HU PLO200. Turn & River Play. Weird Preflop Min-Reraise by Villain.

01-31-2019 , 01:11 AM
Headsup, PLO200
Villain is Unknown, and the few hands we played (less than 20) are unremarkable.
100BB effective

Hero's Hand: KKT9
Pre: Hero(SB) raises to 6, Villain(BB) re-raises to 14
Pre: Hero calls the 14. (POT = 28)

Flop: 926
Flop: Villain Checks. Hero bets 14 into 28. Villain calls. (POT = 56)

Turn: 926J
Turn: Villain checks. Hero thinks and checks.

River: 926J2
River: Villain bets 40 into 56.

Hero...?


What does everyone make of villain's small re-raise preflop? I thought it was strange.

Hero bets flop and then checks the turn. Opinions on turn check. Should we be betting this turn?

River play was my big question. How does my turn check change the way the river plays out? Do you like calling villain's river bet? Is the river board pairing 2 a good card to call villain's bet?


Thanks
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01-31-2019 , 03:58 AM
I like checking turn. You have enough SD and also tons worse hands to bluff. Readless I call river. This is excellent river card for villain to bluff as he would vbet thin as well.
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01-31-2019 , 04:24 AM
why is this a good card to bluff?
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01-31-2019 , 06:56 PM
I think the turn is a bet. This board is fairly dry but I don't want to give a free river and I don't think we need to worry about getting check/raised very often.

As played OTR, I think it's a call, right? Villain does have some missed straight draws... we block 99; 66 and 2xxx shouldn't be getting 3bet super often... QQ may be betting now that some 2p combos are counterfeited... but AA may take this line too.

Running some PPT, I think we have more than enough equity to call versus what I think is a reasonable range, but with so little information I'm really just guessing.
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02-01-2019 , 08:27 AM
I don't understand what the question is... (because if it's about the river, then you really need to evaluate whether you should be playing HUPLO in the first place)
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02-01-2019 , 01:38 PM
Sorry, if I wasn't clear in my OP.

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Originally Posted by HUMBLE.
Headsup, PLO200

What does everyone make of villain's small re-raise preflop? I thought it was strange.
Do people treat 3-bets mainly as aces even though the re-raise is small?

Hero bets flop and then checks the turn. Opinions on turn check. Should we be betting this turn?
Do people prefer betting this turn and checking behind on river, or is going for three streets of value seem better?

River play was my big question. How does my turn check change the way the river plays out? Do you like calling villain's river bet? Is the river board pairing 2 a good card to call villain's bet?

Looks like the consensus is if we are checking behind on turn, then river is a snap call.
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Originally Posted by F_Ivanovic
I don't understand what the question is... (because if it's about the river, then you really need to evaluate whether you should be playing HUPLO in the first place)

I play 95% 6-max but I will open sit tables and play headsup so my experience with huhu is more limited. I would like to improve my headsup game so I am posting these easy questions here. Cheers.
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02-01-2019 , 06:55 PM
His min reraise is probably a misclick. I've done this before.

As played you should probably bet turn if you're going to bet the flop. You're never checking 2 pair or a wrap vs a random unknown, so checking turn kind of puts your hand face up as 1 pair.

River is a pretty clear call. We lose to AA and some random hand with a 2. He's almost always raising any set on the flop. Although if it's on global, some of those donks just always have it and i've folded some big hands to them that I would call on other sites. They play so strange as well.
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02-03-2019 , 08:27 AM
Putting our hand "face up" is not a reason to bet. We bet for value + protection or as a bluff. In this case betting achieves neither - we aren't bluffing, and there isn't that much value or protection anymore. Turn check is check in a vacuum although in some dynamics it could be a bet. (like if villain is a fish and calling really wide)

Pre-flop I assume a min-3b is less likely to be aces and if I had any K high suit I would be 4b. But as is, flatting is fine.
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02-03-2019 , 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by F_Ivanovic
Putting our hand "face up" is not a reason to bet. We bet for value + protection or as a bluff. In this case betting achieves neither - we aren't bluffing, and there isn't that much value or protection anymore. Turn check is check in a vacuum although in some dynamics it could be a bet. (like if villain is a fish and calling really wide)

Pre-flop I assume a min-3b is less likely to be aces and if I had any K high suit I would be 4b. But as is, flatting is fine.
Than why bet the flop? I think the turn bet keeps us from getting rocked because if someone checked back the turn vs me after betting flop I would bet half of rivers as a bluff to rep 2 pair or a set. This river i would not be bluffing.
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02-03-2019 , 07:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by djevans
Than why bet the flop? I think the turn bet keeps us from getting rocked because if someone checked back the turn vs me after betting flop I would bet half of rivers as a bluff to rep 2 pair or a set. This river i would not be bluffing.
Because there is more value and protection to be had on the flop? A hand like 2nd pair with no SD or good BDFD is going to have to fold on the flop even though it has a decent amount of equity vs our hand. The fact they called flop narrows their range such that betting turn no longer is very profitable.

Betting for fear of your hand being seen as weak is just bad poker. If your range is weak, make it stronger. And/Or learn to call more on rivers if you think someone is exploiting your turn checking range here.

What rivers are you bluffing exactly (in villains shoes)? And what hands do you think we're folding on certain rivers? Since we can easily have hit trips/2 pair/straight on many rivers. What hands is villain bluffing with?
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02-05-2019 , 05:31 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by F_Ivanovic
Because there is more value and protection to be had on the flop? A hand like 2nd pair with no SD or good BDFD is going to have to fold on the flop even though it has a decent amount of equity vs our hand. The fact they called flop narrows their range such that betting turn no longer is very profitable.

Betting for fear of your hand being seen as weak is just bad poker. If your range is weak, make it stronger. And/Or learn to call more on rivers if you think someone is exploiting your turn checking range here.

What rivers are you bluffing exactly (in villains shoes)? And what hands do you think we're folding on certain rivers? Since we can easily have hit trips/2 pair/straight on many rivers. What hands is villain bluffing with?
Fair -

I am not bluffing bottom card pairing, but I could bluff an A, 7, 8, T, Q, 5, 4, 3 and fold to any raise, and put a hand like 1 pair into a tough spot and make me harder to play against if that's what I think he has (in villains shoes)
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02-06-2019 , 08:18 AM
Do you ever have a better hand on the river?
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02-06-2019 , 05:21 PM
yes. AQ92


but you are right, he is very much at the top of his range and has to call.
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