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07-08-2019 , 06:38 PM
PLO100 - 6handed

All 100bb deep

Hero is SB with K Q J 8

fold, fold, fold, BU raises to 3.5bb, Hero raises to 11bb, BB calls, BU calls

Flop (33bb) Q 8 8

Hero check, BB check, BU bets 10bb, Hero call, BB fold

Turn (53bb) T

Hero check, BU bets 20bb, Hero ? (79bb behind, 73bb pot at the moment)

Hero raises all in

BU kind of good aggro reg

3bet is not an obligation oop here, a 9/T instead of the 8 would be better.
But it seems me ok to 3bet this

Bingo flop, I'm quite unseen here with my full, which my 3bet from SB range doesn't connect that much with this flop

check and let villain bluff, vbet worse (A8xx, lower 8xxx), semibluff draws (9TJx), or let them hit "good" turns etc...

cc seems me std

The turn complete some straights, giving additional big draws too.
check again and let him try to push out of the pot, or vbet worse etc...

What line when he 2barrels again ?
c/r seems me a mistake, since the price is loud (he could fold most of his 8xxx that have not enough equity vs straights, A8xx, full etc...)
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07-08-2019 , 07:48 PM
Need to CB flop. Other Qx have 6-9 outs against you on average, plus ur OOP vs 2 villains, so pretty silly to give free cards, plus most people won't put us on Qxxx after we 3b (they'll think ur CBing your AAxx). Should be betting turn as well.

As played were typically not folding @ this SPR even though Tx is a bad card, so I guess x/shove is fine.
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07-08-2019 , 08:32 PM
Think flop x/c is std like you said esp vs this type of aggro villian. Flop hits villain's range more which increases odds of triple barrel.

Turn I think should still be x/c for a couple reasons: our range at this point looks like aa/kk w/ backdoors and you hold two diamonds which is perfect. With you holding two diamonds it's less likely villain is- meaning he's unblocking your folding range. W/o diamonds I might consider x/jam as villain is more likely to have value by turn.

Villain sounds capable of triple barreling as well increasing value in x/calling turn.
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08-29-2019 , 04:08 AM
3betting is not mandatory but absolutely standard if u look at monker's solution for preflop sb vs btn pfr. Anyways, xc flop is best imo. the only bad card for us is an ace considering how we hold a K as well. However, I would probably never jam turn. If villain has a SD like 9Txx, 9Jxx, he checks when he does make the straight on the river mostly unless he overvalues his hand and he jams river when he misses and u can get the most value there. When u shove, youre really praying that he has 8x and calls. Give the guy the chance to bluff with a hand like QTxx with blockers to the boat.
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