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08-06-2019 , 06:37 AM

DumbosTrunk

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Hi all,

1/2 PLO 5-card high. V is winning reg. Has been 3! hero the last couple times he opened. Also have a little history of him verbally picking on me as a newer player to the game. I called him out on it once. $800 effective.

Hero raises CO Th9h9c8s5s $20 in straddled pot, one call, V 3! $50 SB, straddler calls, two more callers, hero calls IP.

Flop ($250): 8h-Js-Qh. Checks to hero who bets pot. V/SB calls, short stack straddler jams for less, around $100. Rest fold.

Turn ($850): Jc. V leads $275. Hero?

Thanks,
DT

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08-06-2019 , 11:23 AM

m0mmy

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Before i give my input i just wanna say i am a 5card plo fish. With that being said im stacking off on this turn all day long. If he has QQ or JQ than nh i guess. I belive he is more weighted to AA/KK/Jx hands. If he didnt 3bet pre i would be more inclined to give him credit for a boat. AP i would just get it in on the turn.

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08-06-2019 , 03:04 PM

.isolated

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Judging by your sizing being over $15 preflop and that there were callers after the straddler to the 3-bet, you iso'ed with this hand. This hand is not good enough to iso. Think about the common scenarios postflop that will arise and you'll see why. Even facing a 3-bet and calls, you have a pretty meh hand going against 4 other players where your fds are almost certainly not good and your straights will be chops some % and you have to hold when you do flop something nutty. This situation is not ideal and despite the odds pre, I'd fold but you shouldn't raise in the first place.

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08-06-2019 , 04:24 PM

DevWil

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Grunching.

I'm a four-card guy but the preflop raise seems very loose to me. Calling the 3bet seems pretty hard to pass up for the price, though.

V's turn betting range has us crushed imo. Folding is annoying but I think we need to.

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08-07-2019 , 12:00 AM

illiterat

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What .iso and devwill said ... but ALSO:

1. Villains 3bet sizing pre. looks like he's doing this super wide, esp. given table talk and the fact he's doing this a lot vs. you ... don't assume AA/KK type ranges.

2. your flop bet screams "this is an unbalanced range of mostly straights", so I doubt he's calling rando KK hands on flop. About your best bet is he has Ah*h and is bluffing turn just to stick it to you (you having the Th esp. is bad for this though).

3. Short stack is already in, betting ranges should be tighter in general because if you can't beat the short stack it's only winning the $300 side pot.

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08-07-2019 , 06:28 AM

PokerPlayingGamble

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It's a protected pot so I would just fold.

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08-07-2019 , 10:57 AM

m0mmy

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Originally Posted by PokerPlayingGamble

It's a protected pot so I would just fold.

+1 ya on second thought the all in player should tighten up V's range quit a bit. Now im leaning towards a fold.

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08-08-2019 , 02:36 AM

JohnnyDough

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Call and reevaluate river. Many players don’t lead there when they’ve filled up since their hand is now more or less invulnerable. They like to check and let the aggressor fire again.

Why and how is the guy verbally picking on you? That changes the dynamics of the hand. He’s probably more likely to make a move if he’s got something against you.

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08-08-2019 , 01:19 PM

OmahaDonk

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Don't raise pre.
Fold turn.

You keep raising hands that will make bad flushes and bad sets. This is not what we want in a bloated pot.

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08-09-2019 , 12:38 AM

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PokerPlayingGamble

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fine open from the co imo

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08-09-2019 , 06:13 AM

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OmahaDonk

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Originally Posted by PokerPlayingGamble

fine open from the co imo

He isoed over 2 limpers

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08-09-2019 , 08:41 AM

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DumbosTrunk

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Originally Posted by JohnnyDough

He's made comments in a previous session like "I know it's hard to follow everything," and "I don't think you know what's going on here." I don't think he likes how I play (i.e., not like a complete donk he can pillage from like the others).

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08-09-2019 , 07:34 PM

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JobRunsBetter

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What % of live winning regs are firing OOP when the board pairs and fills him up? I mean, I see this kind of ***** all the time and it’s usually some hyper f’ing aggro-maniac understthe scare value of a board pair and uncorking. I’m shipping here. Would be much more concerned if he check called a big bet on turn or XR would obv be a deal breaker and cause an auto fold from me

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08-14-2019 , 07:35 PM

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Rin-Inky

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Easy fold.

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What % of live winning regs are firing OOP when the board pairs and fills him up?

?? Why wouldn't regs lead?

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