Came across a spot I did not know what to do in today.

UTG just joined the table a few hands ago. I played a hand against him where he bet on an AQxxss flop all the way, he shoved the J river (completing the flush) for 80bb and after tanking I called with AJ, he showed KK.

MP is a 54/15, Afq 3

Would love some input how you would have handled the flop.

Microgaming - €0.10 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 107.9 BB (VPIP: 38.63, PFR: 19.86, 3Bet Preflop: 4.62, Hands: 278)
BB: 96.9 BB (VPIP: 48.00, PFR: 16.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 26)
UTG: 124.3 BB (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 30.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)
MP: 254.6 BB (VPIP: 55.32, PFR: 14.98, 3Bet Preflop: 6.85, Hands: 563)
Hero (CO): 306 BB
BTN: 76.2 BB (VPIP: 61.69, PFR: 2.23, 3Bet Preflop: 1.13, Hands: 637)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 8 J A A

UTG raises to 3.5 BB, MP raises to 12 BB, Hero raises to 41 BB, fold, fold, fold, UTG calls 37.5 BB, MP calls 29 BB

Flop: (124.5 BB, 3 players) 8 Q K
UTG bets 83.3 BB and is all-in, MP raises to 213.6 BB and is all-in, Hero?

flop is easy fold IMO, they made it easy for you by blasting it off right away without checking.

So the flopped pair and BFD + the gutter probably doesn't factor in too much so deep. Would that be different in a 100bb deep spot you think?

I mean it is not as if the 8 discounts many (if any) two pairs by villains, since they either have KQ, sets or wraps I would think?!

With 41% of your stack in at 100bb I don't think can fold

It`s really close.Against some competent players most often you would

be against a made hand(top 2 min) and a str draw so closer to fold. if

you were 100 bb depp ofc insta call.But I see players calling on these limits

with any tjxx,ak56 and other other trash so call can`t be too bad.Yes I know

they can have set,but that`s small part of their range as any 1 pair hand is also jamming flop.

K King through 8 flop is only a 6 rank wide and narrower widths should be more common in 3b multiway pots although the play worse vs AA heads up

Just a math problem, but given MP's stats off the top of my head I think its a call.

Your 4 bet signaled aces and against two opponents you're up against 2 pair or better (set of K or Q).

This is why I would never 4b this deep with AAxx. I'd rather just call the 3B to keep my range wide and the SPR higher.

100bbs effective I just close my eyes and GII but being this deep you can fold. Expect to run into a lot of KK & QQ combos, even more so that the board is rainbow and you have some good blockers to the wraps on board it weights further to ranges of 2p+.

for normal people.
for 50% vpip vamos a la playa hombres it´s probably different. might still be a fold though, esp if V2 is some holdem player who 3bets every ****ty KK and QQ bc oh well, KK or QQ.


@CJ, 4bet is perfectly fine.

Hey, there is nothing wrong with a guy wanting to go to the beach

nothing at all!

Thank you for your inputs! I would have called in a 100bb situation with the gutter,trip and set outs and the backdoor fd. I think unless I am up against a set this couldn't be bad, which admittedly they will have fairly often in this spot.

Given the actual situation, I was not happy but found a fold in the end.
I would be curious to know what you would have done in this exact spot against only one opponent.


Doesn't a decent AA hand have enough of an equity edge against two loose opponents to push it? I also have a few other hands in my 4 bet range which should make it at least a little bit harder for observant villains to put me on my exact hand
I must admit that I haven't found a spot to slow play AA yet in the 70k hands I have played on these stakes.

Good to hear my own thinking reflected, especially since I have only started to learn PLO in a serious manner recently.

Ill post the results in a spoiler below if anyone is interested .

If I am against 1 player and spr is 1 I`m not folding AA even if my opponents show me he has flopped quads.With spr 2 or higher it can be tricky and is
very player dependent.

I would fold if he showed me flopped quads.