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05-31-2019 , 01:25 AM
on Global the runbad doesnt feel normal. I see that their RNG is certified (mentioned above), but i also just want to understand why I see some of the things that I do on there and i dont know how to explain them

does anyone else ever feel like global plays unnatural?

what OP and the others describe above is what I have gone through as well: ridiculous upswings and downswings. Ten hour sessions where I feel like I am playing solid and preserving the quality of my decisions but still cant seem to turn a profit, and days where I play the exact same and win tens of BI
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05-31-2019 , 06:29 PM
Hard to tell if Global's RNG is on the up and up with out the use of a database. But good players consistently win on that site so it's probably fine. I've been debating trying out https://swcpoker.eu/ but the action on there is pretty sparse. But with global i'm getting crushed by the rake and there are a lot more regs than there used to be.

One thing about the PLO on global is it goes to the flop multiway so much that you almost have to make a hand and hope to get value. I play PLO 200 100 and 50 but mostly 100.

I've been break even on there for the past 200 hours or so of play. I feel like I lose more than 50% of the time with top set.

I am crushing live PLO for about 25k+ past 500 hours so that helps.

In b4 downswing???
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05-31-2019 , 07:00 PM
when i first started i turned a small deposit in a big figure in a couple weeks, but at some point i felt like i hit a brick wall of variance and could not recover. eventually i decided to cash out while i was still ahead because i didnt feel comfortable on there

I generally have total trust in an RNG, and i still dont want to believe that there is anything amiss on global because its such a great option for american players and i WANT the site to be straight so i can keep playing there

however i keep seeing people repeat the same things about this site, which match my experience. I am honestly embarrassed to be one of these people questioning the rng but at this point i think it is a question worth asking.

for example this guy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFOInL5xnJ4
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05-31-2019 , 07:11 PM
If you read around enough, you can see people talk **** about every rng because they either underestimate variance or suck and in most cases, it's both. Here's a thread of 85k posts talking about online poker being rigged. So read that thread and you'll never want to play on any site again
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06-01-2019 , 03:05 AM
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Originally Posted by nightmaretilt
when i first started i turned a small deposit in a big figure in a couple weeks, but at some point i felt like i hit a brick wall of variance and could not recover. eventually i decided to cash out while i was still ahead because i didnt feel comfortable on there

I generally have total trust in an RNG, and i still dont want to believe that there is anything amiss on global because its such a great option for american players and i WANT the site to be straight so i can keep playing there

however i keep seeing people repeat the same things about this site, which match my experience. I am honestly embarrassed to be one of these people questioning the rng but at this point i think it is a question worth asking.

for example this guy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFOInL5xnJ4

I agree - I ran it up real quick on global when i first deposited and now i've been break even for 3 months. I don't play a lot but I get my money in good a ton and get sucked out on
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06-25-2019 , 01:45 AM
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Originally Posted by DingusEgg
18 buyins in a session is not standard, because most players don't allow themselves to play long enough to lose that many buyins in a single session.

18 buyin downswing over multiple sessions is very possible, depending on how many you are willing to lose each session.

I'd be curious to know what your EV line looked like over those 2000 hands.

As someone mentioned, a stop loss might be worth exploring, because frankly losing 18 buyins in a single session is a huge hit to your bankroll and has you in a position where you should likely drop down limits for a bit, unless you were already over rolled.

Take a break, think about a stop loss tactic and then get back out there. You won't win 18 buyins back in a day, but start chipping away, and you'll get them back.
Totally depends on the number of tables you are playing. I grind 12+ normal tables or 8 tables zoom and 10+ buying swing is standard.
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06-26-2019 , 12:44 AM
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Originally Posted by nightmaretilt
on Global the runbad doesnt feel normal. I see that their RNG is certified (mentioned above), but i also just want to understand why I see some of the things that I do on there and i dont know how to explain them

does anyone else ever feel like global plays unnatural?

what OP and the others describe above is what I have gone through as well: ridiculous upswings and downswings. Ten hour sessions where I feel like I am playing solid and preserving the quality of my decisions but still cant seem to turn a profit, and days where I play the exact same and win tens of BI

ive played on every site since paradise poker and global is the only one ive questioned the legitimacy of, an it just so happens to bethe only one with some shady "sweepstakes " model. ive gone broke here enough for my liking. betwn the high rake and impossible beats I just can't spin a roll up here. I suspect the more wining players have been there long enough to learn the quriks and adapt


trust your gut. idk why people hold up these certification companies up as if theyre some holy entity anyways...theres an illegitimate Russian agent in the white house right now...lol, its always all about the money. trust no one
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06-26-2019 , 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by ouirly
ive played on every site since paradise poker and global is the only one ive questioned the legitimacy of, an it just so happens to bethe only one with some shady "sweepstakes " model. ive gone broke here enough for my liking. betwn the high rake and impossible beats I just can't spin a roll up here. I suspect the more wining players have been there long enough to learn the quriks and adapt


trust your gut. idk why people hold up these certification companies up as if theyre some holy entity anyways...theres an illegitimate Russian agent in the white house right now...lol, its always all about the money. trust no one

You might just be playing poorly. I know a lot of people who spun up a roll on global (myself included) - but the games are much tougher now and most of those people moved on to live poker or something else because it wasn't worth there time any more. I know 2 people at my hometown casino who play 5/T who won over 100k on that site before cashing out. (One of them was 12 tabling NL200) They played hold'em though.

I also don't play as much as I used to. Still have a smallish roll to play PLO100-200 but I think i'm done with online poker until I can find a quality site with some rake back like the WSOP.com site that doesn't limit you to Nevada and New Jersey. Live poker is just way better
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06-28-2019 , 07:35 AM
I guess many people think about how to deal with downswings, but what about the upswings?

Last ~20k hands, nothing ever helt, 75% equity was never enough. Didn't hit an out like once and the one time, you get somebody to stack off against topfull, he shows quads. Add my normal mistakes to the game and I was barely winning at 3BB/100. Felt really bad.
Today, I started to run hotter than the sun. Everything is holding, 48% equity gets there on the river TWICE, I hit my miracle cards all the time, when bluffing and always find some dude, that pays 2 PSB with topset, when I'm repping straights and straights only.

Obviously it feels great and my winrate skyrocketed to 92BB/100 (lol!) over the last 1200 hands, but it won't last. So, how do you not fall into the trap of:
- gonna shove this in, if we are behind, we are gonna get there anyways.
- I'm the new goddess of poker, this triple check/raise bluff is the best way to play the hand.
Well, you get the idea, of starting to be overconfident in your game. Like expecting your hands to hold up everytime, your outs to show up everytime and getting completly blind for your own mistakes.
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06-28-2019 , 10:28 PM
Stop having winners tilt. Nothing you do at the table should be based on emotion. Your mindset should be the same in every single hand you play. You should be basing your play on logical reasoning, poker theory, hand reading, etc..
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