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02-01-2018 , 02:55 PM
MP: $191.32 (VPIP: 29.52, PFR: 10.48, 3Bet Preflop: 2.22, Hands: 107)
CO: $103.25 (VPIP: 28.41, PFR: 22.14, 3Bet Preflop: 6.00, Hands: 276)
BTN: $133.19 (VPIP: 27.31, PFR: 12.04, 3Bet Preflop: 2.17, Hands: 220)
Hero (SB): $219.88
BB: $115.18 (VPIP: 19.61, PFR: 13.73, 3Bet Preflop: 11.76, Hands: 103)
UTG: $368.35 (VPIP: 52.56, PFR: 14.10, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 79)

Hero posts SB $0.50, BB posts BB $1.00

Pre Flop: (pot: $1.50) Hero has Q A 2 T

fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $3.00, BB raises to $9.00, Hero calls $6.00

Flop: ($18.00, 2 players) 3 T 6
Hero checks, BB bets $12.00, Hero calls $12.00

Turn: ($42.00, 2 players) A
Hero checks, BB bets $28.00, Hero calls $28.00

River: ($98.00, 2 players) 3

standard? anyone fastplaying flop or turn? I figure we should put this kind of hand in xc range otf/ott bc we have plenty of AT that need more protection than this one with the spade fd.

what are we doing if he jams river?
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02-01-2018 , 04:12 PM
My first thought was I fastplay the flop. The only hands he can have that we're really afraid of are a suited king of spades, a suited ace of spades or a set, and all 3 of those are very hard for him to have. He 3-bet before the flop so it's really hard for him to even have a raggedy two pair. His most likely hand is an overpair, and we have blockers to AA and QQ.

With that said, I think calling the flop is fine too.

I think you have to raise the turn though. After his turn bet he's put almost half his stack in the pot, so he's not going to fold to your raise even if he's behind. At let's face it, he's probably behind. What are you afraid of on the turn, AA? If he has AA it's just crappily bad luck. He probably bet the turn because he has you on a flush draw.

Get your money in good.
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02-01-2018 , 04:16 PM
It's not that you have worse AT in your range which makes you want to take X/ call down lines, it's a range protection thing so that you can have strong hands like top2+ in your range here so when you do have the weaker components of that range your opponent is less likely to barrell you and you get to buy cheaper showdowns or realise your equity.

As for the hand I'm calling down, just so few combos of hands that have you beat, and that's before you consider BBs range disadvantage and your own card removal on this board.
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02-01-2018 , 05:06 PM
While I agree with SolarAU, I will say that IMHO these are extremely tough spots. Top two is usually the best hand given that board and that action, which makes you want to raise, but if the other guy RE-raises, you want to puke.

In this hand, even if the villain barrels the river (and let's face it, with his stack size he's probably going all in), I want to puke. Two pair, even top two on a raggedy board, is soooooooo hard to call with there.
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02-01-2018 , 05:17 PM
It looks like hero's range is mostly on the draw with how things played out. I like the call/call/call line as played. I see no reason to raise turn, I'd rather keep his bluffs in and he should jam river a decent amount of time because of the range advantage. I think raising turn is very counter-productive as we just isolate against his stronger hands which have a range advantage over us and we fold out the hands we want him to continue with.

Sure we want to raise turn because he could have some combo draw we have dominated but I don't think it's a good for a long-term game plan. River is going to be tough on quite a bit of the deck but we give too much EV away raising imo.
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02-01-2018 , 09:25 PM
You played well until the river.I would check call this.
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02-04-2018 , 06:30 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RalphWaldoEmerson
standard? anyone fastplaying flop or turn? I figure we should put this kind of hand in xc range otf/ott bc we have plenty of AT that need more protection than this one with the spade fd.

what are we doing if he jams river?
Villain dependant, dumb thread readless.
Flop depends on his freqs, holding A!s isn't great for stack off purposes.
Fine to c/c vs most.

Ton of draws missed and it's a decent catcher.
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02-07-2018 , 09:44 PM
Calling here. I jam turn.
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