so my dad showed me one of his PLO hands and he knows i have the NANDEZ course on vhs and wanted to know what i thought, figured id get some second opinions :

game is four handed .30/.60 with 3 other somewhat spazzy whales all 400$+ deep, we're sitting on 120$

we OPEN A22T from CO and see flop HU with the BB who calls.

flop is T43 and the old man 75% pots it, i think this should be a 1/3 at most, on this dry flop.. or even a check with marginal made hand and only a gs?

villain repops it for pot, i think it should be a fold here, again marginal made hand marginal draw. hero calls

turn is A POT IS 31$ EFFECTIVE STACKS 100$

VILLAIN pots. as played, i think this is a call? we have double blocker to the straight, and top two blocked. its questionable if even spazzy whale would be blasting mid/low set this hard ?

hero calls,
river is J and villain puts dad all in by betting exactly 70$ into 94$ pot, with our 69.90$ behind.
so now villains line makes no sense, at this point hes repping QK? ... an ambitious 25 that we double block?
do we call this FOS line or just assume hes REALLY overvaluing something, or that our blockers actually dont mean sh*t?

You have Jnandez on VHS?

Why do you think villain shouldn't be shoving this river with anything he value bet turn with? Esp. when you take "hero's pre. range" into account.

If he has AKT4 or something do you think he should check/call because you'll obviously bluff more often than call whatever random hand you got to the river with? Or check/call because you'll value bet wider than you'll call? Or maybe check/fold because your range is obviously nutted?

Call now is fine, jam turn would be better.

Rip the turn. This hand is too weak and the board is too dynamic to try to induce a river barrel from the spazzo.

GOOD points, yeah i think were in good shape on the turn. and , true, its not just kq that value jams the riv, but, villain jamming the low sets (most likely holding of his right now, isnt it?), seems a bit ambitious for anyone, i was just trying to emphasize how suspicious his river jam is here,to me ..

basically im saying his line looks FOS on the riv given our holding, and asking if you think its a profitable call vs this player type, or, if more likely than not, he has some "decent" holding that hes blasting it with here, like a low set. would you be hero calling here thinly?

often bad players in NL will blast a merged range with lines that make no sense, so hero calls with blockers tend to run into like mid pair or something stupid, so we should be making merged calls. IS this similar spot in PLO?

also, my main contention in this hand is that flop is a fold. do you agree?

He can have sets, but his most likely hand is something totally nonsensical that has some sort of minor interaction with the board.

most players aren't going to check the river with a flopped set because of some nonsensical backdoor straight with an SPR of less than 1.

fold the flop to the c/r

Agreed. Better yet, don't bet flop.

I'll be that guy. Fold pre

How does this hand continue beyond the flop ?
Flop cb is standard on this dry flop.

I think betting the flop is standard because we have blockers to top 2 and top set. However once we get raised on the flop, I think we have got to let it go. But as played, once the turn comes, calling is now very attractive because we dont have a 5,6,7. When we reach the river, I think I will be very tempted to bluff catch here. And if we look at our range, we can argue that we have aces, TT, and some KQTx, x=4,A,3. But overall, we are pretty up there in our range. Hope this helps.