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Confusing Hand KK82 Confusing Hand KK82

10-23-2017 , 11:19 PM
Sorry its an Ignition hand and I dont have a converter so I will have to type out the action. Im not sure what to make of this hand but have to admit I dont play PLO a ton.

UTG delt Ac6c5s4s
Dealer Delt As2cKcJh
SB Uknown Hand
hero BB Delt Kd8dKs2S

UTG Calls 2
Dealer Raises 9
SB Calls
Hero Raises to 38
All call

Flop Jd8s3h

Hero BB shoves for 59.45 and is all in
UTG Raises all in 195.45
Dealer Raises all in 219.15
SB folds with 150 ish behind

Now is there a chance that UTG with no pair or draw is buddies with Dealer and shoves to get the SB out and to isolate them 2 vs me? I just dont see how he thinks he has fold equity with 2 people behind him and either guy is gonna call with a pair. If im wrong sorry just felt funny about this hand.
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10-24-2017 , 02:12 AM
This doesn’t seem that out of the ordinary there.


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10-24-2017 , 04:21 PM
People make crazy moves. Maybe he thought back door straight draw is good hand.
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10-24-2017 , 07:41 PM
Is this for real? How can you suspect collusion if u don't see what they are holding?
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10-24-2017 , 08:02 PM
The answer to your question is no
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10-24-2017 , 08:06 PM
If they're colluding they're awful at it. BTN does not have a great hand. He probably needs to improve to beat you anyway. Why push someone else out?
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10-25-2017 , 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by MIB211
If they're colluding they're awful at it. BTN does not have a great hand. He probably needs to improve to beat you anyway. Why push someone else out?
Yea thats the part that doesnt make sense to me either. I just cannot believe that guy raised all in for his stack with Ace high and only back door draws in that spot with 2 guys behind him with him covered lol. Like I said im a Holdem guy so this might be normal to you guys but to me it seemed weird and honestly I couldnt find a good reason for him to shove there.
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10-25-2017 , 01:09 AM
'Ooh my hand looks pretty'

Clock starts ticking.



'All-in!'

Also entirely possible he thought he had an 'open-ended straight draw' with 654 and a 3 on board. Not everyone knows the rules!
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10-25-2017 , 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Rei Ayanami
'Ooh my hand looks pretty'

Clock starts ticking.



'All-in!'

Also entirely possible he thought he had an 'open-ended straight draw' with 654 and a 3 on board. Not everyone knows the rules!
Yea maybe the games are that soft here lol
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10-25-2017 , 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Sirbustalotz
Yea thats the part that doesnt make sense to me either. I just cannot believe that guy raised all in for his stack with Ace high and only back door draws in that spot with 2 guys behind him with him covered lol. Like I said im a Holdem guy so this might be normal to you guys but to me it seemed weird and honestly I couldnt find a good reason for him to shove there.
I wouldn't ascribe malice to these guys in something that's much more likely to be attributable to incompetence/stupidity.
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10-25-2017 , 08:50 PM
Incase anyone was wondering he scooped the pot when hitting runner runner straight so if he wasnt workign with the guy then he got a good pot over 650$
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11-01-2017 , 04:44 AM
No, you shouldn't have shoved on the flop not having seen what 3 other players in Omaha had done yet.

Hold em, eh. Omaha, no.
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11-02-2017 , 08:44 PM
This prolly is one of the best if not THE BEST online game on the internet.

Overjamming AKJ2 on J83 flop is a gamble since youre very like against AA or KK in which case your pair outs are no good.and the other player has prolly a draw so youre crushed all around.But still,ok,we see that lot.

But the guy jamming A6 high/no draw in a PLO200 game,i mean man ive played all the way down to PLO2 and i dont remember seeing something so bad,even the biggest drooler will have at least bottom pair or a fckn gutshot.

I agree its pretty weird esp for PLO200,but thank god every braindead guy on the planet is allowed to play online poker.
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11-03-2017 , 03:53 AM
Unless he “freely” resides in the 47ish? United States of America who still have an online gambool ban in effect.
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11-09-2017 , 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Rei Ayanami
'Ooh my hand looks pretty'

Clock starts ticking.



'All-in!'

Also entirely possible he thought he had an 'open-ended straight draw' with 654 and a 3 on board. Not everyone knows the rules!
you know the rules.
Spoiler:
If you sag off, your swag´s off.
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