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Old 03-19-2019, 05:37 PM   #1
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Comparing RIO, upswing, JNandez online PLO training

Can anyone comment on how RIO, upswing, and JNandez video trainings for about 100$ a month compare? I'm not sure which I should invest in.
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Old 03-23-2019, 02:17 PM   #2
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Re: Comparing RIO, upswing, JNandez online PLO training

I don't know about upswing.

RIO has two levels. Essential and Elite. Essential is 25 and elite is 99 with the option to convert from essential to elite with credit.

Mastermind is 99 a month.

I went with RIO basic and have recently converted to the elite. RIO is essential video were great for developing a basic understanding of the game and the principles required to become better.
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Old 03-24-2019, 11:57 PM   #3
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if you want learn PLO, then there is only one choice the best:
JNANDEZ
he is simply the best PLO Coach alive!
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Old 03-25-2019, 03:16 AM   #4
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Re: Comparing RIO, upswing, JNandez online PLO training

99$ for a month for Jnandez choaching stuff is a lot of money tbh
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Old 03-25-2019, 10:44 AM   #5
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99$ for a month for Jnandez choaching stuff is a lot of money tbh
i agree, its a lot of money. but compare to for example Raise Your Edge, which is the best coaching site for MTT, they take 1300$+ for their stuff.

so overall, todays best coaching sites are all very expensive.
i also dont like that.

but you can be sure, its worth the 99$ when you learn how to beat the Game and play correctly and all the stuff. you need propably more than 1 month, so its not only 99$. but as i said, raise your edge is like 1,3K and in the past the PLO University from upswing was also like 900$-1K if i remember correctly...

its expensive... yes...
but there is no other way, to learn from the best.

i see a thread here on 2+2 from a PLO highstakes grinder, which is selling PLO Coaching for more then 150$/hour ! 150$ for 1 hour !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! so 99$/month seems pretty ok compared to this
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Old 03-25-2019, 10:46 AM   #6
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Re: Comparing RIO, upswing, JNandez online PLO training

oh and by the way, maybe i plan to make a own PLO coaching site for less money, so all the low stakes players can afford it, for like 20-25$/month?
i mean i dont know if i will make this, but its just a thought, because i also find it too expensive and there must be a very big size of players who want to invest some dollars into coachign but can not afford the 100$/month. we will see if i have time for this project
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Old 03-25-2019, 11:34 AM   #7
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Re: Comparing RIO, upswing, JNandez online PLO training

you sound like a jnandez affiliate
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Old 03-25-2019, 11:46 AM   #8
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Re: Comparing RIO, upswing, JNandez online PLO training

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oh and by the way, maybe i plan to make a own PLO coaching site for less money, so all the low stakes players can afford it, for like 20-25$/month?
i mean i dont know if i will make this, but its just a thought, because i also find it too expensive and there must be a very big size of players who want to invest some dollars into coachign but can not afford the 100$/month. we will see if i have time for this project
From your strategy posts I can't wait to join this site. I feel your coaching is definitely worth $20-25 at least.

...wait I read it wrong, I thought you would be paying the users $20-25 a month, my bad.
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Old 03-25-2019, 02:03 PM   #9
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Re: Comparing RIO, upswing, JNandez online PLO training

How much do I have to pay? I'd love to tell people about my strategy piling on the river with anything that can't call.
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Old 03-25-2019, 03:28 PM   #10
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you sound like a jnandez affiliate
haha, no actually i am just a big fan of him, since he helped me bring my PLO game to highest level
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Old 03-25-2019, 03:29 PM   #11
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From your strategy posts I can't wait to join this site. I feel your coaching is definitely worth $20-25 at least.

...wait I read it wrong, I thought you would be paying the users $20-25 a month, my bad.
hahaha
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Old 03-31-2019, 07:24 PM   #12
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Re: Comparing RIO, upswing, JNandez online PLO training

Got to love poker players....drop infinite $ on the tables. Go on the forums and put $99, $150/h and expensive in the same post
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Old 04-01-2019, 05:10 AM   #13
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100$ for so much content is way too cheap
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Old 04-01-2019, 01:31 PM   #14
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100$ for so much content is way too cheap
It simply isn't market conform. At RIO you get hundreds of PLO videos from proven regs 25$ and legends like Phil Galfond for 99$. I am not even sure Jnandez can win at 500PLO, so no. 99$ is way too much, he has over-judged his marketability and is shooting about 70$ over his paygrade. Way too pretentious. Might change if he beats the challenge.
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Old 04-01-2019, 01:58 PM   #15
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Re: Comparing RIO, upswing, JNandez online PLO training

^ +1

Also challenge seems like a marketing bull****, just so he can put $100k in the title and attract new customers
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Old 04-01-2019, 02:26 PM   #16
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I think the same...100$ is just too much. I wonder how many people really belive they can improve in this game...
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Old 04-01-2019, 02:48 PM   #17
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Re: Comparing RIO, upswing, JNandez online PLO training

It's easy AF
Sign up to RIO
Get PLO quickpro manual
get monkersolver
be fanatic in study sessions
ez win

You can only lose in this game if you're a pure degenerate.
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Old 04-01-2019, 08:30 PM   #18
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$99 a month is extremely overpriced. An important point to remember is the amount of new content particularly for month 2, 3 isn't going to justify another $99 payment. If you are going to pay $99, then hardcore study the info for that month and don't sign up for next month. Maybe 6 months later there will be enough new content to pay for a single month again.

The training sites are trying to counter the one month and done approach by offering members only content that you think you can't live without....don't fall for it.
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Old 04-02-2019, 01:59 AM   #19
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^ +1

Also challenge seems like a marketing bull****, just so he can put $100k in the title and attract new customers
I do look like that don it. Doug did it, Carrel did it and now this guy. Should a brother get in on this?
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Old 04-05-2019, 10:07 AM   #20
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Lol at 99$ being overpriced, the value you get in the MM is just insane if you put some work in.

Btw I am not an affiliate, just a happy member from day 1.
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