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Old 07-11-2018, 05:28 AM   #76
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Re: the brief return of the King

Guys I almost let a big win slide. I almost let it slide. Man I made a sh*t call which cost me almost all of my winnings. I had top set and he had a gutter and rivered me nuts straight vs lower straight. I mean I really tend to s*k when I play longer session. At the end I just give away money for no reason but after I pretty much lost all my winnings I got focused again and took back what was mine to book a huge win right at the start of the day. Can it get more beautiful than this?

You ask yourself for good reason, how can this guy win every ***** day against LEGENDS of the PLO game. I really asked that myself too. My style is different from all other players. Preflop I play different and postflop I am just a God. I dont like to flatter myself too much but thats just the reality, the reads I make are mindblowing. The value I squeeze out of every hand is what evelates my winrate to these insane levels.

I will show you a hand to show deep thinking highstakes is. They try to get you from all angles. I really respect his play here. He anticipated correctly that I would turn a nut flush blocker into a further bluff on a paired river which I ***** would but I dont know about shoving. He likely thought I would go for max value with my flush (which Im famous for) and then fold to a shove. Unfortunately the king had the goods and he was left only with his tears. You now see what my seemingly insane plays lead to. They lead to people ***** up tremedously.

UTG: $10,798.67 (1080 bb)
CO: $1,000.00 (100 bb)
BU: $1,022.00 (102 bb)
SB (Hero): $1,720.95 (172 bb)
BB: $1,000.00 (100 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($15) Hero is SB with A 7 Q 8
2 players fold, BTN raises to $35, Hero calls $30, BB calls $25

Flop: ($105) 5 7 A (3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($105) K (3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, BTN bets $68, Hero raises to $187, BB folds, BTN calls $119

River: ($479) A (2 players)
Hero bets $476, BTN raises to $800 (all-in), Hero calls $324

Total pot: $2,079 (Rake: $3)

Showdown:
BU shows 3 6 7 Q (a flush, Ace high)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 35%, Flop: 42%, Turn: 93%, River: 0%)

SB (Hero) shows A 7 Q 8 (a full house, Aces full of Sevens)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 65%, Flop: 58%, Turn: 8%, River: 100%)

SB (Hero) wins $2,076



Pls remember me as the greatest
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Old 07-11-2018, 10:23 AM   #77
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Well played turn.
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Old 07-11-2018, 10:50 AM   #78
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Well played turn.
Please enlighten us PLO25 crusher

Join date 2011 and you still play PLO25? Jesus I would have hung myself on the next ***** tree that I saw. I know that you guys would have just called turn but thats not my style, plus I know he had a flush so it makes no sense to just call. Put Pressure, force mistakes


Quick afternoon session where I got betrayed but its fine, ITS FINE OK? Money is money

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Old 07-11-2018, 11:07 AM   #79
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PLO Heater > Cocaine
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Old 07-11-2018, 11:18 AM   #80
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PLO Heater > Cocaine
pretty long 1 year heater I have there mate, without running over EV. Sick Heater man. But what to I expect from mortals? Its common human behaivor to qualify the success of others as luck to give an excuse why one cant achieve it themselve. One day you will catch that heater which brings you from PLO25 to PLO2500, dont worry. It will happen
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Old 07-11-2018, 11:21 AM   #81
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Graph starting July 2017?
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Old 07-11-2018, 11:27 AM   #82
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Graph starting July 2017?
A bit earlier. I started Poker 2017 (Ye I know, but as a God its possible). I played a couple months without HUD, then played with Pokertracker 1 month test HUD, bought HEM Hud and not much after that I took my 1+ year break cause of crypto and and returned end of may/june. So the database is not that big, but god in heaven the winnings are.
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Old 07-11-2018, 11:58 AM   #83
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I was doing a Google search the other day for something related to 25 PLO, graphs or stats, can't remember which. One of the first search results was for a 2+2 thread. Opened her up and what do you know, it was the beginning of zoja's PLO journey. Starting at 25 PLO, struggling with 50 PLO and random tilt sessions at 500 PLO. Been quite the run up.
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Old 07-11-2018, 11:58 AM   #84
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pretty long 1 year heater I have there mate, without running over EV. Sick Heater man. But what to I expect from mortals? Its common human behaivor to qualify the success of others as luck to give an excuse why one cant achieve it themselve. One day you will catch that heater which brings you from PLO25 to PLO2500, dont worry. It will happen
99% of the graphs you posted here you actually ran above your EV mate, so how does that work out?

Apart from this, having a Heater does not necessarily mean running above EV.

Nevertheless, keep them PLO Heater dopamine induced delusional thoughts coming brah.
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Old 07-11-2018, 12:06 PM   #85
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Please enlighten us PLO25 crusher
Nothing you've posted suggests you can beat plo25, so not sure if that's a compliment.

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I know that you guys would have just called turn but thats not my style, plus I know he had a flush so it makes no sense to just call. Put Pressure, force mistakes
Yeh, difficult decision against fish with a giant bluffing range ... hence the call with 6 high flush and no draw. Lends credence to all your other posts about winning by having great reads.

The river is weird, maybe he thinks you are so bad that you'll call with any A or has some sense that this is the bottom of his range he doesn't have many A hands without a FH and so has to turn it into a bluff. Ofc. he could be on tilt.


I'm 50/50 on you just trolling everyone with every post you do or being a fish on a heater. gg .
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Old 07-11-2018, 12:14 PM   #86
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Nothing you've posted suggests you can beat plo25, so not sure if that's a compliment.



Yeh, difficult decision against fish with a giant bluffing range ... hence the call with 6 high flush and no draw. Lends credence to all your other posts about winning by having great reads.

The river is weird, maybe he thinks you are so bad that you'll call with any A or has some sense that this is the bottom of his range he doesn't have many A hands without a FH and so has to turn it into a bluff. Ofc. he could be on tilt.


I'm 50/50 on you just trolling everyone with every post you do or being a fish on a heater. gg .
Lol I think my 5 year old retar*ded cousin could make a better hand analysis. I like how you use words like "bluffing range", "bottom of his range" like you even know wtf youre talking about.

Just face the reality that youre a PLO25 worm, you dont even exist in my world. I crushed PLO50 in 1 day for 3k while youre struggling to move up to PLO50 since 2011. I mean do I really have to continue?

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99% of the graphs you posted here you actually ran above your EV mate, so how does that work out?

Apart from this, having a Heater does not necessarily mean running above EV.

Nevertheless, keep them PLO Heater dopamine induced delusional thoughts coming brah.
How is PLO10 treating you these days. I almost forgot, were you struggling with PLO5 or PLO10? I couldnt actually remember. Keep working that 9-5 job mate, work it like it is all you got, cause it literally is all you got
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Old 07-11-2018, 12:38 PM   #87
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3k on plo50 really ? Anyway it's basically not possible that you don't have losing days playing plo mid/high stakes. Can you put monthly graph?
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Old 07-11-2018, 12:44 PM   #88
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3k on plo50 really ?
Quick question, are you handicapped? The graph is literally on the first ***** page of the thread

This is a casual week in the life of MichelAngelo and by week I mean the first ***** 2 1/2 days of the week LMAO




BWHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHA

hey illiterat and jaguar dogsh*t, I promise you the next PLO25 and PLO10 threads you open I will come personally and answer your question.


A quick question to Jaguar dogsh*t. You were following all my threads back then and all crypto calls I made (buying BTC at 1k, ICO's). How does it actually feel to have missed out on the biggest opportunity of your life which could have made you retire from your sh*tjob just cause you couldnt accept my superiority. Tell me on a scale from rekt to mega rekt how rekt do you feel. I mean if I were you I would bow to my feet and kiss the path im walking on. Just accept that youre a dumb human being, there is nothing hard about it. just say it out loud "hey Im dumb as fk, I should have listened to the 100x smarter MichelAngelo but I didnt cause im DUMB AS FK". I really feel pitty for you. Really man. I hope you can work that sh*t out.

I dont even need to make it this money. Im already retired and just screwing around. I just do this sh*t cause it is fun (for now) to crush your families cause lets face the reality. Its actually your money that Im winning here. The semi scrubs take it from the scrubs and they bring it to the kings table. Elton John called it in his famous song "The Circle of Life"

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Old 07-11-2018, 01:18 PM   #89
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Being a broke failure all your life, never getting any recognition by your peers and suddenly here you are with a couple ten grand to your name, living the dream. Dat plot twist.

You remind me of that one guy I knew some years ago. Exact same behaviour patterns. You don't have to be a wizard to see what kind of life circumstances in association with elementary human character traits lead towards that. The world is small my friend. People are fairly similar in all places, regardless of what they're trying to achieve.

Ever saw a true genius bragging about his/her skills on the interwebz on a daily in a similar fashion? Nope, me neither.

The world is full of people so easy to entertain. Just keep on being the clown, that you are. That's what we expect of you. Nothing more, nothing less.

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Old 07-11-2018, 01:22 PM   #90
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Its actually your money that Im winning here. The semi scrubs take it from the scrubs and they bring it to the kings table. Elton John called it in his famous song "The Circle of Life"
Last time I checked, the circle of life involves those at the top eventually dying to feed those that they "lesser then" which in essence completes the circle. So I guess you'll either run into someone superior and spew some bankroll, or you'll lose it all in the crypto market.

Either way, good luck riding the wave.
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Old 07-11-2018, 01:25 PM   #91
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It seems like you make a lot of money, but still spend a lot of time editing your previous posts and searching other people's post while constantly insulting. I mean you re good in plo but some kind of psychological problems re evident. Better ask for some professional help.
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Old 07-11-2018, 04:09 PM   #92
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It seems like you make a lot of money, but still spend a lot of time editing your previous posts and searching other people's post while constantly insulting. I mean you re good in plo but some kind of psychological problems re evident. Better ask for some professional help.
Money destroys character but when ur rich u dont have to give a fk about anyone so why seek help.

I kind take it when a little worm tries to question my play when I could just buy their whole life. Some plo 10/25 guys who cant move up for 7 years talking to a guy who went from plo 50 to plo 2500 in 1 month.
Its like when I would question BERRI SWEET's play which I would never do. I would always ask myself what I am missing when I see sth weird, never question him but thats the problem of those low IQ boys. They have their predefined mindset thats why they never succeed in anything.

Maybe I should stop posting here. I do it mainly to keep myself motivated to bring positive results and for entertainment. A documentation of human success. So that one day I can show my kids how I ruled my Kingdom but atmosphere is becoming toxic. I dont need beta male mindset in my life..you shouldnt deal with too many loosers, its like a disease, it spreads
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Old 07-11-2018, 05:37 PM   #93
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Money destroys character but when ur rich u dont have to give a fk about anyone so why seek help.

I kind take it when a little worm tries to question my play when I could just buy their whole life. Some plo 10/25 guys who cant move up for 7 years talking to a guy who went from plo 50 to plo 2500 in 1 month.
Its like when I would question BERRI SWEET's play which I would never do. I would always ask myself what I am missing when I see sth weird, never question him but thats the problem of those low IQ boys. They have their predefined mindset thats why they never succeed in anything.


Maybe I should stop posting here. I do it mainly to keep myself motivated to bring positive results and for entertainment. A documentation of human success. So that one day I can show my kids how I ruled my Kingdom but atmosphere is becoming toxic. I dont need beta male mindset in my life..you shouldnt deal with too many loosers, its like a disease, it spreads


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Old 07-11-2018, 06:19 PM   #94
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LMAO @ the king questioning his ability to handle the "toxic" atmosphere in this thread. What a ***** joke

From now on I will respect and encourage, that this is your little space here, where you can over-compensate all your inferiority complexes ad infinitum.

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Old 07-11-2018, 07:04 PM   #95
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I kind take it when a little worm tries to question my play when I could just buy their whole life.
Maybe I should stop posting here. I do it mainly to keep myself motivated and for entertainment. I dont need beta male mindset in my life..you shouldnt deal with too many loosers, its like a disease, it spreads
When alfa male wants some entertainment that usually means some woman, alcohol or hanging out with other alfa males.

Interesting that for the King alfa male that means insulting ``little worms``

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Old 07-12-2018, 05:29 AM   #96
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zoja is either a PLO version of Isildur or a fish on the luckiest run ever recorded in such a small sample (yeah EV is >0 but like someone said before it's not just about all-in EV).

I for one like to read these posts, at least brings some life to a dead forum if nothing else. just to clarify, I don't like the part where he ****s on everyone but the actual hands.
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Old 07-12-2018, 06:00 AM   #97
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tbf he's only posted one hand which was bat**** insane fishy (but which prob involved reads)... the hand above where illiterat questioned turn play just shows how bad illiterat is. The turn play is standard as **** - no better bluffing candidate than the nut flush blocker and 2 pair so you have some outs to a FH.

I mean you could get FPS and call turn to x/r river but I feel that line just gets less credit + the fact that many plebs don't value bet light enough anyway particularly if they are facing the PLO god who they know is capable of x/r them on the river as a bluff and for thin value.
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Old 07-12-2018, 09:47 AM   #98
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Ye I already knew why I didnt want to deal with that beta male mindset. I ***** knew it. The next ***** day I ran like absolute horsesh*t. Its a disease which keeps spreading, you surround yourself with loosers, you become a looser. Its the simple rule of the universe.

Luckily they dont call me for no reason 'Zoja Iron Will'. You will never break my spirit. You will never get me to tilt. You sukout on me, I play even better. Im the unstoppable machine that keeps coming, again, again and again til I win. These are the treats of a true champion.

Again I had to make plays the world has never seen before to get out of this mess:

BU: $500.00 (100 bb)
SB: $401.66 (80 bb)
BB (Hero): $759.70 (152 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($7) Hero is BB with 4 J K 5
BTN raises to $15, 1 fold, Hero 3-bets to $47, BTN calls $32

Flop: ($96) 8 6 T (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $52, Hero calls $52

Turn: ($200) 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $99, Hero raises to $495, BU folds

Total pot: $398 (Rake: $2)
BB (Hero) wins $396

Im the Mayweather of Poker. 50 days in a row Im winning. 50-0 bitches. My sheet is clean as the soul of Mother Theresa.

Meanwhile these PLO10/25 scrubs dare to step into my thread and even speak to me. Speak to the King without respect. Dare to raise their voice in my kingdom. Speaking to one of the biggest winners of the last two months who is destroying legends of the Game with a insane winrate. But that is life for you. The worms which dont amount to anything are the most dangerous threat to a king. You have to exterminate them as quickly as possible. In Poker that means taking their money every ***** day of the week.



MichelAngelo, first of his kind, King of Kings, a true winner of Life

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Old 07-12-2018, 09:53 AM   #99
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tbf he's only posted one hand which was bat**** insane fishy (but which prob involved reads)...
Which one was that: calling a 3bet with A997 and bluffing with nothing or the AJ63 4bet and bluffing monotone flop with nothing? Or maybe I missed one...

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the hand above where illiterat questioned turn play just shows how bad illiterat is.
I might well be the worst, but I mainly questioned his read/image given villain called so light.

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The turn play is standard as **** - no better bluffing candidate than the nut flush blocker and 2 pair so you have some outs to a FH.
I like turn a lot more if we've bet flop, are we really checking our flushes here a decent amount when it checks through?
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Old 07-12-2018, 10:33 AM   #100
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I think that A7Q8ss hand is played to perfection postflop. Donking flop makes 0 sense with Michelangelos exact hand and i doubt donking Qh flushdraws, which isn't even the NFD OTF, is a good or winning play.
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