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01-22-2018 , 10:25 AM
.25 .50. 8 handed Hero in BB. Folds to CO who calls, BTN (V1 $30ish) calls, SB completes, hero checks 7s 7h 3c 3d.

Pot 2.00
Flop Ad Kd 7c. CO checks, Villain bets 2.00, SB calls, Hero Calls, CO folds.

Pot $8.
Turn 3s (Ad Kd 7c). Hero checks, V1 bets $8.00, SB folds, hero????

No strong read on V though I did see him go broke with AAxx unimproved a few orbits earlier. He opened w a pot raise from LP in that hand.
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01-22-2018 , 11:16 AM
No sense of V's VPIP/PFR?

60 BBs deep I'm going broke here on the theory that he probably raises AAxx or KKxx pre from the BTN. With less than a PSB behind I shove turn.
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01-22-2018 , 11:58 AM
This is clear shove with 60bb deep.You are only worried about bad kk he didn't raise pre,

and he can have here top 2 and bunch of straight and flush draw combos.
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01-22-2018 , 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by MIB211
No sense of V's VPIP/PFR?

60 BBs deep I'm going broke here on the theory that he probably raises AAxx or KKxx pre from the BTN. With less than a PSB behind I shove turn.
Just two orbits in.
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01-22-2018 , 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by sdclaw
Just two orbits in.
Against an unknown I shove turn. Need a good reason to do anything but shove here.
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01-22-2018 , 04:36 PM
GII
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01-22-2018 , 06:06 PM
you picked up an out on the turn so go ahead and shove.
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01-23-2018 , 01:56 AM
As others have said - without any raising Preflop it is more likely Ak-- here than a set. Fist Pump
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01-23-2018 , 02:50 AM
I think I also gii, I don't think its a fist pump, ppl can do weird **** pre
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01-23-2018 , 10:26 AM
Should I have been leading?
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01-23-2018 , 01:45 PM
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Should I have been leading?
In a limped pot I would be leading pot here. Dangerous to let others do your betting for you in a limped pot, and board isn't great for a slow play with flush draw, broadway draws and maybe top two out there. If I were to x/call flop I would check turn too.
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01-23-2018 , 02:10 PM
Looks like a super easy jam. I don't get the confusion. Playing a river is viable I suppose but our visibility will be quite poor if anything annoying hits, and we also lose value when villain checks behind. So just shovel it in?

If he actually overlimped KK or AA otb then like, good for him I guess
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01-23-2018 , 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by MIB211
In a limped pot I would be leading pot here. Dangerous to let others do your betting for you in a limped pot, and board isn't great for a slow play with flush draw, broadway draws and maybe top two out there. If I were to x/call flop I would check turn too.
I get that and in hold em I donk 100% of the time there. In PLO I always get bound up in spots like these. In the games I play I get zero fold equity on flop donk from draws and any paint or diamind puts me OOP in check down mode. Considering the board and my position the only run out I like is the case seven or a running pair. My thinking is xc for pot control and putting off the big decision until I see the turn card where drawing equity is reduced substantially.

Is my thinking flawed?
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01-25-2018 , 10:09 PM
even fish raise AAxx KKxx, all the time, well most of the time, GII IMO
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